Important changes in the 2007 timetable

Mark Gleeson · 08-01-2007, 12:25

The 19:05 Connolly Sligo now serves Kilcock and Enfield

Extra 6:00 am Gorey calling same stops as the 6:45 am but running to Sligo departing Connolly at 8:00 am

Ballina shuttle offers connections in both directions so Ballina Westport is possible

23:10 Pearse Maynooth Mon-Sat

comcor · 08-01-2007, 12:56

And now for the bits they didn't tell you...

There are far fewer through services from Mallow to Cobh. The morning and evening rush is still catered for, but otherwise, it's a change at Cork.

Mark Gleeson · 08-01-2007, 14:48

Its got something to do with the hourly Cork Dublin

Of course the 7:15 Cork Mallow and 8:00 Mallow Cork are worth a look, Mk4 operated local trains, technically they can't stop you travelling in first since the train is not classified as having first

comcor · 08-01-2007, 14:57

So that's what suburban means.

Seeing that there's a theory that Irish Rail senior management read this website, I may as well say it... I was very disappointed they didn't fix up the connection between Dublin-Cork and Cork-Cobh trains in the new timetable. Through the day it's fine with a 10-15 minute gap between the arrival of a train from Dublin and the departure of one to Cobh, then it goes all wrong in the evening with 30+ minute gaps appearing for connections from the 6pm and 7pm from Dublin when these are likely to be the most popular trains from Dublin. If they could throw on one extra train to Cobh and have departures at 9, 10 and 11 (instead of 9:30 and 10:30), the connection would be a lot nicer.

comcor · 11-01-2007, 11:38

In the old timetable there's always been a 20:50 service from Mallow to Cork that runs Monday-Thursday. Except it runs on a Friday too, but only unofficially.

Basically, it provides a nice connection from the 18:30 Dublin-Tralee train and on a Friday, this train is so full with Kerry-bound passengers that they don't want people using it to travel to Cork.

Ghost services and stops are nothing new to Irish Rail.

MOH · 12-01-2007, 10:32

Now that they've moved some of the morning southbound DARTs to five minutes earlier, there's now one southbound DART passing through Connolly in the 35 minute period between 8:51 and 9:25.

The same number as in the 13 minute off peak gap from 10:04 to 10:17.

We already know they don't proof-read anything, but does anyone actually bother designing these timetables? Not much point since they never stick to them anyway.

Thomas the Tank · 12-01-2007, 16:16

Apologies if this was mentioned on another thread already but have just seen the new train times from Clonsilla to the Docklands station from March 12th:

AM: Additional services departing Clonsilla: 7.00, 7.45, 8.20, 8.45
PM: Service departing Docklands for Clonsilla: 16.20, 17.10, 17.38, 18.45, 19.20.

The 8.20 service should take a lot of pressure off the 8.13 train especially no? And the 17.38 departure should do likewise in the evenings. Here's to happier travelling

Mark Gleeson · 12-01-2007, 16:24

Jury is out on how many will make the change

Thomas the Tank · 12-01-2007, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Jury is out on how many will make the change

Are other services to go to the Docklands also?

Derek Wheeler · 12-01-2007, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas the Tank

Are other services to go to the Docklands also?

No. Only the new ex-clonsilla services. Obviously a prelude to forthcoming Pace services. Maynooth/Leixlip commuters have been put through 18 months of confusion and uncertainty by IE. People, naturally, had concerns that their existing trains would be diverted to Docklands. IE allayed this fear by stating that only the "additional new services" would serve Docklands. They've also hyped up the extra Maynooth services, but never at any stage did IE say the extra trains to Docklands would only start at Clonsilla.

Furthermore the promised inclusion of some Kildare line trains to Docklands via the Park Tunnel, never materialised either. Despite going on record to an Oireachtas Committee, they've still not been made accountable.

They're like the KGB.

comcor · 15-01-2007, 13:19

One thing I only noticed yesterday was that although there is a 20:30 train from Cork to Dublin from Monday to Saturday, there's none on a Sunday. That seems a bit odd, given that I'd have thought that Sunday evening is busier on that route than most weekday evenings.

Mark Gleeson · 15-01-2007, 13:27

Strangely the internal timetable hints that there might be a 6am Dublin Cork as well

If there was a 20:30 ex Cork on a Sunday it would mean a 22:00 out of Dublin since there needs to be 5 sets in Cork at 5am Monday and only 2 in Dublin

Sunday is werid its not bad coming into Dublin late evening

08-01-2007, 12:25	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Important changes in the 2007 timetable The 19:05 Connolly Sligo now serves Kilcock and Enfield Extra 6:00 am Gorey calling same stops as the 6:45 am but running to Sligo departing Connolly at 8:00 am Ballina shuttle offers connections in both directions so Ballina Westport is possible 23:10 Pearse Maynooth Mon-Sat Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 08-01-2007 at 14:45.

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08-01-2007, 12:56	#2
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	And now for the bits they didn't tell you... There are far fewer through services from Mallow to Cobh. The morning and evening rush is still catered for, but otherwise, it's a change at Cork.

08-01-2007, 14:48	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its got something to do with the hourly Cork Dublin Of course the 7:15 Cork Mallow and 8:00 Mallow Cork are worth a look, Mk4 operated local trains, technically they can't stop you travelling in first since the train is not classified as having first

08-01-2007, 14:57	#4
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	So that's what suburban means. Seeing that there's a theory that Irish Rail senior management read this website, I may as well say it... I was very disappointed they didn't fix up the connection between Dublin-Cork and Cork-Cobh trains in the new timetable. Through the day it's fine with a 10-15 minute gap between the arrival of a train from Dublin and the departure of one to Cobh, then it goes all wrong in the evening with 30+ minute gaps appearing for connections from the 6pm and 7pm from Dublin when these are likely to be the most popular trains from Dublin. If they could throw on one extra train to Cobh and have departures at 9, 10 and 11 (instead of 9:30 and 10:30), the connection would be a lot nicer.

11-01-2007, 11:38	#5
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	In the old timetable there's always been a 20:50 service from Mallow to Cork that runs Monday-Thursday. Except it runs on a Friday too, but only unofficially. Basically, it provides a nice connection from the 18:30 Dublin-Tralee train and on a Friday, this train is so full with Kerry-bound passengers that they don't want people using it to travel to Cork. Ghost services and stops are nothing new to Irish Rail.

12-01-2007, 10:32	#6
MOH Really Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 372	Now that they've moved some of the morning southbound DARTs to five minutes earlier, there's now one southbound DART passing through Connolly in the 35 minute period between 8:51 and 9:25. The same number as in the 13 minute off peak gap from 10:04 to 10:17. We already know they don't proof-read anything, but does anyone actually bother designing these timetables? Not much point since they never stick to them anyway.

12-01-2007, 16:16	#7
Thomas the Tank New to the board Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 23	Apologies if this was mentioned on another thread already but have just seen the new train times from Clonsilla to the Docklands station from March 12th: AM: Additional services departing Clonsilla: 7.00, 7.45, 8.20, 8.45 PM: Service departing Docklands for Clonsilla: 16.20, 17.10, 17.38, 18.45, 19.20. The 8.20 service should take a lot of pressure off the 8.13 train especially no? And the 17.38 departure should do likewise in the evenings. Here's to happier travelling

12-01-2007, 16:24	#8
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Jury is out on how many will make the change

15-01-2007, 13:19	#11
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	One thing I only noticed yesterday was that although there is a 20:30 train from Cork to Dublin from Monday to Saturday, there's none on a Sunday. That seems a bit odd, given that I'd have thought that Sunday evening is busier on that route than most weekday evenings.

15-01-2007, 13:27	#12
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Strangely the internal timetable hints that there might be a 6am Dublin Cork as well If there was a 20:30 ex Cork on a Sunday it would mean a 22:00 out of Dublin since there needs to be 5 sets in Cork at 5am Monday and only 2 in Dublin Sunday is werid its not bad coming into Dublin late evening