Kiteflying about wholesale closures

Ronald Binge · 13-09-2013, 18:45

Two days in a row and two rumours elsewhere about the NTA considering wholesale closures outside Dublin to Belfast, Cork, Limerick, Westport and Tralee. Any substance or is this simply mischief making?

Jamie2k9 · 13-09-2013, 18:53

Now that's the biggest load of nonsense I have heard about IE in a long time. Can't believe you have even posted about it, do you honestly believe it?

Ronald Binge · 13-09-2013, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

Now that's the biggest load of nonsense I have heard about IE in a long time. Can't beeline you have even posted about it.

I'm simply asking a question. Jesus.

Jamie2k9 · 13-09-2013, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Ronald Binge

I'm simply asking a question. Jesus.

Didn't mean to annoy you but come on, seriously? The answer is no anyway besides the usual lines waiting for closure,

Traincustomer · 13-09-2013, 22:12

It's very disconcerting reading the sort of material Ronald has mentioned that is appearing elsewhere. For one I thought a more mature making a go of things approach was now the plan for the railways. It's very easy to slash and burn but that's not the way forward. Hopefully there is no substance to any of this other than keeping existing operations and lines as cost effective as possible.

Colm Moore · 13-09-2013, 22:47

And where are these claims?

Mark Gleeson · 14-09-2013, 10:27

There will be closures alright but they have to wait for a politician in North Tipp to lose his seat (not long to go now). No main route is at risk

The financial position should stabilize in 2014

markpb · 14-09-2013, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

The financial position should stabilize in 2014

Isn't that assuming that government subvention remains the same, which might not hold true at the next budget.

Inniskeen · 14-09-2013, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

There will be closures alright but they have to wait for a politician in North Tipp to lose his seat (not long to go now). No main route is at risk

The financial position should stabilize in 2014

Irish Rail are much less relevant now than even a decade ago given the near total abandonment of rail freight, the reduction in passenger market share and the very significant improvement in the road system.

On a more positive note the cost of running trains (crews, signalling, level crossings) have been much reduced and the state of the infrastructure is relatively good. Irish Rail now need to grow their business and ensure that their services meet the needs of the communities they serve to the maximum extent possible.

Colm Moore · 15-09-2013, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Ronald Binge

Two days in a row and two rumours elsewhere about the NTA considering wholesale closures outside Dublin to Belfast, Cork, Limerick, Westport and Tralee. Any substance or is this simply mischief making?

The threads on boards.ie look more like a wind-up than anything else.

Destructix · 15-09-2013, 20:23

It's just a load of bs. If there was going to be any line closures how it works is Iarnród Éireann would have to prove whatever line is unviable and doesn't make sense to keep it open and would have to seek permission from the NTA and DOT to close the line not the opposite way. It's not the NTA job to close lines.

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Ronald Binge Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 112	Kiteflying about wholesale closures Two days in a row and two rumours elsewhere about the NTA considering wholesale closures outside Dublin to Belfast, Cork, Limerick, Westport and Tralee. Any substance or is this simply mischief making?

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Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	And where are these claims? __________________

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There will be closures alright but they have to wait for a politician in North Tipp to lose his seat (not long to go now). No main route is at risk The financial position should stabilize in 2014 __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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13-09-2013, 18:53	#2
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Now that's the biggest load of nonsense I have heard about IE in a long time. Can't believe you have even posted about it, do you honestly believe it?

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Traincustomer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ar an traein Posts: 602	It's very disconcerting reading the sort of material Ronald has mentioned that is appearing elsewhere. For one I thought a more mature making a go of things approach was now the plan for the railways. It's very easy to slash and burn but that's not the way forward. Hopefully there is no substance to any of this other than keeping existing operations and lines as cost effective as possible.

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Destructix Really Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Tipperary Posts: 258	It's just a load of bs. If there was going to be any line closures how it works is Iarnród Éireann would have to prove whatever line is unviable and doesn't make sense to keep it open and would have to seek permission from the NTA and DOT to close the line not the opposite way. It's not the NTA job to close lines.