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Unread 25-04-2013, 17:07   #1
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Default Ticket checking Clonsilla

About 15 IR personnel at moment checking tickets in Clonsilla (18.00)
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Unread 27-06-2013, 13:18   #2
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Further inquiries in Irish Rail indicates that many head office department heads have been issued with RPU id cards, RPU warrant cards and have received the RPU training course.
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Unread 27-06-2013, 18:02   #3
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Noticeable increase in RPU checks recently. Today, there were 4 at Kildare, 2 on the train and a gang at Heuston all checking tickets.
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Unread 27-06-2013, 21:55   #4
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That's just the tip of the iceberg of what is coming.
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That's just the tip of the iceberg of what is coming.
Do IE management have any idea how much fare evaders or people who are unable to purchase tickets cost the company every year?
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That's just the tip of the iceberg of what is coming.
It's overkill I wonder what the cost benfit analysis really is.
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Unread 28-06-2013, 11:12   #7
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On one single train last year a total of 80 people were caught without a valid ticket, they all had tickets but when checked a strange pattern was discovered. RPU had been tipped off in advance based on an internal system which red flagged that train. 8000 euro in fines plus the fare difference

If you have a ticket you have nothing to worry about, if you don't you will be caught. Don't try to run either they have enough staff at each check to give chase now. Cost wise, the large scale checks are part staffed by management so no extra cost.

If we start with the assumption that fare evasion is about 5% of total, that's 1.8 million journeys per year, @ 5 euro for average yield per passenger that's 9 million

Reducing fare evasion from 5% to 4% is worth 1.8 million in increased revenues.

Focus is on
1. Adults with child tickets
2. Social welfare passes
3. Student tickets, no student ID
4. Use of stolen (hot) tickets
5. Sharing of annual tickets
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On one single train last year a total of 80 people were caught without a valid ticket, they all had tickets but when checked a strange pattern was discovered. RPU had been tipped off in advance based on an internal system which red flagged that train. 8000 euro in fines plus the fare difference

If you have a ticket you have nothing to worry about, if you don't you will be caught. Don't try to run either they have enough staff at each check to give chase now. Cost wise, the large scale checks are part staffed by management so no extra cost.

If we start with the assumption that fare evasion is about 5% of total, that's 1.8 million journeys per year, @ 5 euro for average yield per passenger that's 9 million

Reducing fare evasion from 5% to 4% is worth 1.8 million in increased revenues.

Focus is on
1. Adults with child tickets
2. Social welfare passes
3. Student tickets, no student ID
4. Use of stolen (hot) tickets
5. Sharing of annual tickets
What a scoop, 80 on the one train
Management should concentrate on getting the trains to run on time, this would also increase revenue, they are losing many passengers on my commuter route, I'm sure the same applies on other routes.
I'm a regular commuter and honestly it's a least 6 months since I've anyone hauled up at any station for not having a ticket. Most people commuting have the Taxsaver ticket. Why should the ordinary compliant commuter be constantly inconvenienced.

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Cost wise, the large scale checks are part staffed by management so no extra cost.
Either the managers are doing unpaid overtime when on RPU or the work they do is less valuable than checking tickets. Those are odd options.
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