Pelletstown (D7/15) station PP application

[ThomasJ]

Is there any possible argument for pellotstown replacing broombridge with the appropriate infrastructure and easy accessibilty linking the old and new station or has the plans for the new dit sports arena and luas terminus ruled this out?

[Colm Moore]

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Is there any possible argument for pellotstown replacing broombridge with the appropriate infrastructure and easy accessibilty linking the old and new station or

If Pelletstown was built at Reilly's Bridge, that would be a fear. However, as it is a bit past Reilly's Bridge, the two stations don't really have the same catchment area. Pelletstown access is largely dictated by Ashington Avenue and Royal Canal Avenue, whereas Broombridge is dictated by Broombridge Road. The only meaningful connection between the two is the canal path - going via Ballyboggan Road adds about 500m and a large hill.

The current dul de sac nature of Ashington mean that part of it is a 3.2km walk to Broombridge, while it is only 700m as the crow flies: http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Unk...a=ltm&t=m&z=15

has the plans for the new dit sports arena and luas terminus ruled this out?

I had suggested to them that, if they wanted, they could extend Luas to Reilly's Bridge, if they were to also build a station there. It would mean breaking the current pattern of behaviour at Broombridge, but maintaining service.

[drouse]

All planning documents (plans, drawings, reports, etc.) are now available on the Dublin City Council planning website-

http://www.dublincity.ie/AniteIMWebS...r1_ref=2109/13

[dowlingm]

Can't imagine RPA being happy with any notion of Broombridge being replaced?

[Inniskeen]

The idea of closing Broombridge and extending the Luas line to the proposed Pelletstown station seems thoroughly sensible although probably impractical unless the Luas line was to deviate dramatically from the present approved route.

More generally the NTA needs to answer a number of questions in relation to future strategy for the various lines in the Dublin area. (Not particularly relevant to the Cork line due to dedicated slow lines and minimal inner suburban traffic).

What are the criteria for the construction of a new station ? How is the affect on existing services and patronage quantified ? Is it considered at all ?

If there are another two or three high density developments between Ashtown and Clonsilla do these all get stations ? How much extra time will be added to existing journeys ? Does it matter ? Can the Sligo service survive if it takes 45 minutes to get to Maynooth ? An hour ?

Looking at the proposed elevations for Pelletstown I can well understand that the locals mightn't be overly enamored - the station does not look like a particularly aesthetic addition to the landscape.

[Colm Moore]

Signalling and removing level crossings would improve journey time. Having a third track for a few km between Maynooth and Glasnevin would allow fast trains to pass stopping trains. There are already three-four tracks for the distance from Glasnevin to Connolly.

The only scope for additional stations are:

Ballybough (depends on whether the track is straight enough) http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,716805,735987,7,3

Glasnevin: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,715113,736359,7,3

Porterstown: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,706068,737773,7,3

There just might be space for a Luas stop in Cabra: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,714057,736756,6,3 but access and distance to public roads are issues. It is unlikely the area would ever be developed.

[drouse]

The Decision Notices and the Planner's Report are now available on-

http://www.dublincity.ie/AniteIMWebS...?grdResultsP=4

In short, the decision of DCC requires further information from the applicant (Iarnród Éireann) on various aspects of the planning application.