New Timetable Hazelhatch/Celbridge

[Thomas J Stamp]

Originally Posted by hoopsheff

However the point remains that this train is 5 mins later arriving in the station with no feederbus...meaning a 15 min walk to Celbridge....meaning 20 mins in total.

is the bus provider the same one as when i used to use this service - albiet in a different direction - all of 11 years ago? In those times there was a lot of hit ans miss with that bus connection (the bus being used also did the school run beforehand which meant that it often never turned up). Its a long miserable walk in the wet from the station to the main street.

As for the "i think you will find" bigade who like to point at timetables as if they were gospel, you ought to know better at this stage.

[Jamie2k9]

The DART part of the KRP will not happen for 10 years if not longer. What needs to happen is the next capital expenditure from 2016 I think? is that funding for the 2 bridge replacement and adding the remaining 4 trains into Inchicore to meet with the 3 into Heuston. Until this happens commuter and intercity services will not be able to run efficiency. If the 4 tracks were completed then it would allow two services to depart Heuston at the same time so for example the current 17.20 commuter and 17.25 service to Limerick could depart at 17.25. 2 services can depart Heuston at same time but will stopped at Inchicore where the problem.

Surly the 2 bridges and finishing the tracks won't cost a major amount its only a km or two of track and a little bit of digging. 100 million at most.

[karlr42]

That last bit of quad tracking is KRP2 , well documented here http://www.irishrail.ie/index.jsp?p=124&n=191 .

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

The DART part of the KRP will not happen for 10 years if not longer. What needs to happen is the next capital expenditure from 2016 I think? is that funding for the 2 bridge replacement and adding the remaining 4 trains into Inchicore to meet with the 3 into Heuston. Until this happens commuter and intercity services will not be able to run efficiency. If the 4 tracks were completed then it would allow two services to depart Heuston at the same time so for example the current 17.20 commuter and 17.25 service to Limerick could depart at 17.25. 2 services can depart Heuston at same time but will stopped at Inchicore where the problem.

Surly the 2 bridges and finishing the tracks won't cost a major amount its only a km or two of track and a little bit of digging. 100 million at most.

You don't really need to have simultaneous departures from Heuston given the number of services.

The real issue with the KPR is inbound when 2 tracks become 1 and regularly one train or another has to pause. The 0600 from Waterford often paused at Parkwest when it caught the slower 0725 from Kildare in the old timetable. In the new timetable, the slow trains generally give way. But the 1720 outbound is an extreme case when is allotted an extra 10 mins to reach Hazelhatch to enable it triple overtaking....

But even having 3 tracks all the way won't solve all problems if trains have to cross over. Example train on fast track need to reach P2 or 3 and train on slow needs to get to P6-8; in this case one or other will have to pause.