2013 Heuston & Regional Draft Timetable

[Thomas J Stamp]

no more alan kelly express. the fact that the 1800 stop at brophy has been kept reflects the reality that 95% of the passengers getting off there just hopped into their cars.

I might do another two or three trips on the AKE. Still the usual 4-5 others every time on the branch.

[plant43]

Minor nitpick: The 1630 to Galway no longer stops in Newbridge, however the 1635 to Waterford seems to have been moved to 1640 but retains it's Hazelhatch/Sallins stops. This is in addition to the 1610 being moved to 1620.

[eoinmadden]

The last train from Galway to Dublin will now be 19:15, rather than 18:05, which is a big improvement. I don't think in the history of CIE they ever ran a train that late from Galway to Dublin.

The 18:05 departure from Galway will become 18:10.

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by eoinmadden

The last train from Galway to Dublin will now be 19:15, rather than 18:05, which is a big improvement. I don't think in the history of CIE they ever ran a train that late from Galway to Dublin.

The 18:05 departure from Galway will become 18:10.

Long, long ago there used to be a 2000ish departure from Galway to Dublin via Mullingar and taking all of 5 hours! It was the mail train and had a single passenger carriage attached. It was there in 1980 and probably for some years after that.

[jacko]

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

no more alan kelly express. the fact that the 1800 stop at brophy has been kept reflects the reality that 95% of the passengers getting off there just hopped into their cars.

I might do another two or three trips on the AKE. Still the usual 4-5 others every time on the branch.

In fairness to AK the people of Nenagh were given it for a year and told to use it or lose it !

[Mark Gleeson]

Well we all knew from the start it wouldn't work. It was to be a 6 month trial but its going to struggle on for 9 months

The Nenagh folks are already trying the usual they didn't try, fares, promotion, etc etc excuses. I don't think there is anyone in North Tipp who didn't know and at 9.99 online you can't really complain


130k wasted

[Jamie2k9]

Having looked at Waterford timetable, I ask upgrade line speed to 100mph as its not showing any real improvment in the timetable. The amount of extra time slotted into each journey is unreal and worse than ever.

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

Having looked at Waterford timetable, I ask upgrade line speed to 100mph as its not showing any real improvment in the timetable. The amount of extra time slotted into each journey is unreal and worse than ever.

Now: 0600, Arr 0820 - 2:20
New: 0605, Arr 0811 - 2:06

Change: 14 mins faster

[Jamie2k9]

Now: 0600, Arr 0820 - 2:20
New: 0605, Arr 0811 - 2:06

Change: 14 mins faster

Over all any time saved is between Newbridge-Heuston. They expect the train 3 minutes in Kilkenny. Kilkenny staff are unable to get a train to depart on time and if they can't do it in 4 or 5 then how wil they in 3. Its some stations have increased journey times. Very poor overall.

[Jamie2k9]

It does not take 15 mintues between Thomastwon-Kilkenny. It can be done in 12-13 but of course all services are scheduled to have 15 minute journey times. This is part of the line cleared for 100mph. So average times in Kilkenny will be 7 or 8 minutes.

It takes 15 minutes between Kilkenny-Muine Bheag but most down services are scheduled for 17-20.

It takes 10 minutes between Muine Bheag-Carlow yet most services are scheduled for 12 or 13.

It takes 10 minutes (9.40 to be exact) between Carlow-Athy but most services are timed to take 12 or 13.

The 06.05 is the only service with any change in times between Cherryvile-Waterford.

Kildare-Athy also takes 16 minutes but some services take 17-20 minutes.

The 07.10 could easily do it in 1h45m

Need I go on?

[dowlingm]

If you're sprinting from passing loop to passing loop there's only so much time to be made up.

[m3parkway]

Great to see more use of the Kildare Route project infrastructure. 11 over takings heading out of Heuston between Commuter services to Portlaoise/Newbridge and Intercity services to Galway, Limerick and Cork. The Portlaoise services at 16:25 and 17:25 are both overtaken twice by Galway and Limerick services. Happy to see less stops on Intercity services thanks to the extension of the Kildare Commuter to Portloaise. Overall very happy with the new timetable.

[Jamie2k9]

If you're sprinting from passing loop to passing loop there's only so much time to be made up.

As with most lines

Things should of being improved more. Take the 17.35 down its realy only haveing 4 minutes dropped as it was always in Waterford arond 10 minutes early. 18.35 only seeing 2 mins cut it always arrived 5 minutes early in Waterford. 16.35 being moved 5 minutes but when at 16.35 it was in Waterford around 18.53 with 4 min stop in Kildare, 4 min in Athy, 3 extra in Kilkenny. (not waiting on other trains BTW)

[neoncircles]

I was under the impression some Limk-Dub services would be reintroduced to cut down on stops for Cork trains- though it would seem not!

[laoisfan]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Well we all knew from the start it wouldn't work. It was to be a 6 month trial but its going to struggle on for 9 months

The Nenagh folks are already trying the usual they didn't try, fares, promotion, etc etc excuses. I don't think there is anyone in North Tipp who didn't know and at 9.99 online you can't really complain


130k wasted

Us folks at Ballybrophy reckon Irish Rail should try running it the opposite way instead i.e. Ballybrophy to Limerick via Roscrea, etc etc.

[Mark Gleeson]

Thats always been our view too, Limerick should be the focus, Nenagh Limerick might have a chance

Problem is the line form Nenagh to Ballybrophy is in seriously poor condition and I'd imagine the civil engineer will be the fall guy who calls a halt to service, neatly avoids the minister as safety will always override commercial and politics

[laoisfan]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Thats always been our view too, Limerick should be the focus, Nenagh Limerick might have a chance

Problem is the line form Nenagh to Ballybrophy is in seriously poor condition and I'd imagine the civil engineer will be the fall guy who calls a halt to service, neatly avoids the minister as safety will always override commercial and politics

The problem as I see it Mark is that nearly all the services are aimed towards Dublin, which I have no problem with in general. Vast majority of people commute towards there so fair enough.

However, look at Limerick, Cork as examples ( as I commute from Ballybrophy so I am biased ) and there is not one service which would get me down to either place for around 8:00-8:30am in the morning. I would even be willing to drive to either Templemore-Thurles for option to get train to Cork or Templemore-Thurles-Roscrea for Limerick train.

Edit. Commuters from Ballybrophy-Templemore-Thurles are ideally placed to commute to Limerick, Cork & Dublin.

[Mark Gleeson]

There was a morning and evening commuter option Nenagh Limerick

Very poorly subscribed to the point in the evening that the guard would head count at Birdhill and if no one aboard they would simply head back to Limerick avoiding the trek to Nenagh