Integrated Ticketing

Colm Moore · 17-12-2011, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Auto top up will work on Dublin Bus and will indeed work on all LEAP operators

Explain this. I'm just not understanding how it can relate to the operators.

Quote:

Internet top up will be available on all private bus operators as well. Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann will not support internet top up.

Why don't they all just point to leapcard.ie rather than duplicating system (and potentially introducing weaknesses if a system isn't patched)?

James Howard · 19-12-2011, 19:10

Interesting if brief article on deployment of smartcard bus tickets on multiple operators in several counties in the South West of the UK.

The figures involved indicate that their transport system must be only 1% as complex as ours. It involves two large bus companies and 11 smaller companies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/government...rtcard-readers

Colm Moore · 19-12-2011, 21:20

Possibly a very simple system as it only covers free travel passes at the moment.

I presume it only covers local services in Somerset County council area and not Bristol / Bath / Weston-super-Mare

That would result in a fairly rural population and limited bus services.

CastaheaneyMan · 20-12-2011, 15:17

Neither Validation poles (one on each platform) in Clonsilla recognised Leapcard but could tag off at card valditor on exit turnstiles.

After second try on one pole got a 'do not recognise card' error message.

James Howard · 20-12-2011, 17:13

They are initially rolling it out in Somerset but the system is to be rolled out over 4 counties in the West Country.

It is obviously a much simpler system that what is in Ireland, but they are still talking about integrating it into the systems of 13 different bus companies which is where the software development complexities would arise.

In fairness, after doing a little more looking around, the Irish system may not be that over-priced by the standards of these. The Australians seem to be spend spectacular amounts of money on smartcard ticketing. The Brisbane system cost $134 million while the Victoria system cost $494 for startup and of the order of $50 million per year to operate. (all according to Wikipedia)

19-12-2011, 21:20	#3
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Possibly a very simple system as it only covers free travel passes at the moment. I presume it only covers local services in Somerset County council area and not Bristol / Bath / Weston-super-Mare That would result in a fairly rural population and limited bus services. __________________

20-12-2011, 15:17	#4
CastaheaneyMan New to the board Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 18	Tagging on/off Clonsilla Neither Validation poles (one on each platform) in Clonsilla recognised Leapcard but could tag off at card valditor on exit turnstiles. After second try on one pole got a 'do not recognise card' error message.

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19-12-2011, 19:10	#2
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	Interesting if brief article on deployment of smartcard bus tickets on multiple operators in several counties in the South West of the UK. The figures involved indicate that their transport system must be only 1% as complex as ours. It involves two large bus companies and 11 smaller companies. http://www.guardian.co.uk/government...rtcard-readers

20-12-2011, 17:13	#5
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	They are initially rolling it out in Somerset but the system is to be rolled out over 4 counties in the West Country. It is obviously a much simpler system that what is in Ireland, but they are still talking about integrating it into the systems of 13 different bus companies which is where the software development complexities would arise. In fairness, after doing a little more looking around, the Irish system may not be that over-priced by the standards of these. The Australians seem to be spend spectacular amounts of money on smartcard ticketing. The Brisbane system cost $134 million while the Victoria system cost $494 for startup and of the order of $50 million per year to operate. (all according to Wikipedia)