New Timetable

[PLUMB LOCO]

I still cannot find any information on www.irishrail.ie about the new timetables for the Rosslare line....please for the love of.....will someone post a direct link here. Thank you!!!

[ThomasJ]

Hey plumbloco just search using the journey planner amend the date to after the 28th to see the new times

[PLUMB LOCO]

Thanks!

[paddyb180285]

While I am very impressed with the overall change of frequency. However, I don't get the way the morning Bray - Drogheda service no longer calls at Dalkey at 10:36. This is also the same with the Bray - Longford service in the evenning at 17:44. The only Commuter that will be calling at Dalkey is the morning Balbriggan service at 09:12. Also, on further note is that the Balbriggan service no longer calls at Glenageary or Sandycove. Other than this, I am very impressed with a pattern based (clockface) timetable.

[chris]

Can the DART clockface timetabling (/15 Minuten Takt, as I am hoping will catch on in Hiberno-English) be run by the existing fleet without cutting capacity on individual trains? or are they relying on additional trains cutting the loads?

[Mark Gleeson]

More like stack loads parked up

[Kilocharlie]

The new timetable brings about a few changes:

More even morning up service with the gap between 7:18 and 7:48 filled with a new 7:30 service and followed by 7:44, 7:51, 7:59 and 8:10. The old 8:14 is gone and 8:35 deferred to 8:45.

Few changes in evening ex Dublin apart from 18:35 deferred to 18:40.

Late evening completely changed: 20:00 gone, 20:05 and 20:35 merged to 20:10, 21:45, 22:15 and 23:00 replaced with hourly 20:10,21:10,22:10 and 23:10 stopping all stations.

Also noticeable is that all services are slated as Intercity or Suburban - so perhaps the 2 29K sets are being replaced by 22K's.

In a new departure, the on-line timetable is now stating arrival/departure platforms in Heuston

[Trampas]

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

looks like its been brought forward to 16.18

I think that is the Rosslare train which has been delayed no to get rid of the 16.20 as the Rosslare train was 1549 from Lansdowne Road but now 1604

[Oisin88]

Dublin-Galway/Westport is a farce particularly services towards Dublin.

Appaling padding. Reduction in services on the Portarlington-Athlone section. 3 hour gap from 16:35 to 19:34 and then 35 minutes to the the last train.

[robdrysdale]

Irish rail still seem to thing everyone starts work at 9am and finishes at 5pm in Dublin. 2 extra trains between 8 and 9 then straight back to 4 per hour, every 15 mins, between 9 and 10. Same between 5 and 6, and back to 4 per hour at 6pm.

Although the weirdness has been removed from the current timetable. No large gaps going South on Northside if you miss the 8.45. The weird Malahide train in the evening that skips Killester, Raheny, Harmonstown and Kilbarrick is gone. This seems like a reduction in service to me. It's seems like a Sunday timetable every day. Very disappointing. Realistically 10 mins is the absolute maximum a commuter service should be operating at. After that as a passenger, you're likely to worry about waiting and take the car. Maybe that's what they want.

Really it should be every 5 mins.

Another win for The Greens on an important issue !!!

[Mark Gleeson]

The off peak DART service is a massive improvement, no question. Its clockface and consistent through the day. The huge gap after 7pm going southbound and the gaps after 10pm are gone. I know far too many people who have gone to bus or car as a result of the current farce of a timetable, with a bit of luck this will draw them back

Morning there is 1 fewer train inbound from the southside before 9, but a better spacing of trains which will improve punctuality. The post 9am situation is cleaned up as well.

Peak hour southbound there is a problem in the 5pm-7pm bracket its actually really painful to review the timetable online, we have to wait for a pdf version to see the full picture

The big question is how will all these trains to Greystones work, it looks like a direct route to chaos

Sunday service is either 20 minutes or 30 minutes, the weekday is at least every 15 minutes off peak, which is completely inline with the targets.

[ThomasJ]

Nothing major on the Maynooth-Clonsilla front except....
17:05hrs connolly Sligo now calls at Maynooth

09:30hrs Clonsilla Docklands cancelled but new 15:52hrs Connolly Clonsilla

The knock ons from the Rosslare-Gorey have been directly replaced with services leaving pearse and vice versa only the 16:52hrs Maynooth Enniscorthy hasnt been replaced.

The morning peak hour services still vary between 15-20 minutes which is still good. The only annoyance is no longer evening clockface times out of pearse.

I've also seen a new 09:05hrs Clonsilla Connolly service (gets into connolly at 09:30)

Still no later sunday evening service though

Otherwise all good.

Roll on next years timetable with the introduction of pace services!

[Kilocharlie]

PDF 2010 timetables now on line!

[ThomasJ]

only the 16:52hrs Maynooth Enniscorthy hasnt been replaced.

Correction, there is still a service departing from Maynooth at 16:53 to Wexford calls at Leixlip louisa bridge, coolmine and drumcondra

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

PDF 2010 timetables now on line!

You will note a new level of honesty in the printed timetables. This is as a result of EC/1371/2007 which requires certain information such as carraige of bicycles. Rail Users Ireland together with various cycling groups have met with Irish Rail and sought significant changes in the manner in which IE deals with bikes, first point - tell us which trains bikes can be carried on

Originally Posted by Request to IE

EC/1371/2007 which comes into force on December 3rd 2009 raises a large number of issues for Irish Rail's entire approach to running the railway. There is no clear way to know which trains are ICR and which are 2800 and thus which trains carry bicycles some form of icon or note would be required in the timetable. Unlike European timetables there is no indication of which trains are intercity (e.g IC) operated and which are regional
commuter trains (e.g RE/RB).

You will also note Irish Rail finally admit in public to the messy bus transfers in Ballina on Saturday

[EnterpriseUser]

What happened plans for Premier service on some of the Sligo services?

[Kilocharlie]

The Dublin-Cork (intermediate stations) timetable states that bikes can be carried on all services except Mallow-Cork-Cobh/Midleton. As this timetable also includes all Dublin-Newbridge/Kildare commuter services, it implies that these will be ICR only with no 29K services as these have no bike capacity. Also they are classified as 'Suburban' on the on-line timetable.

Who looses 2 ICR sets and who gains 2 29Ks?

[Mark Gleeson]

Loser is Limerick

Its all part of the plan, all trains beyond Hazelhatch will be 22k, commuter services from Hazelhatch to Heuston will be 29k

The 29K fleet has been in service close on 6 years now, painting and overhauls are getting underway, that accounts for 1 and it will also mean no more short trains which covers the second. At times 28 of the 29 sets where in service, the target was 24 or 25 so hopefully we get a bit more reliability

[Colm Moore]

Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

In a new departure, the on-line timetable is now stating arrival/departure platforms in Heuston

This is strange, given the way they have been managing the information on the departures board in Heuston.

[Mark Gleeson]

Don't trust the numbers, they did this in the past and there were trains for Kildare using platform 10 according to the online system, yet platform 10 had been closed for a year!