[29-8-2009] 17:53 maynooth rosslare reduced capacity

sublimity · 30-08-2009, 12:02

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Originally Posted by PLUMB LOCO

I fear that the 22000s, while being more comfortable, will be 3-piece sets and unable to cater for the numbers.

Which is why we need them to start with 6 coach sets on some services from the outset. F**k the platform length issue, its only one or two stations on the line. announcements can be made in advance by driver and staff at station.

WE NEED 6 COACH SETS ON THE ROSSLARE LINE FOR THE NEW TIMETABLE. SIMPLE AS

Thomas Ralph · 30-08-2009, 15:21

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Originally Posted by sublimity

F**k the platform length issue

This isn't a thing IÉ can dismiss out of hand; they would be committing an offence and liable to fines for running trains that extend off the platform.

PLUMB LOCO · 30-08-2009, 21:01

I was just browsing through a box of old photos this evening and came across a pic of a typical Rosslare train about 1982 (6 bogies plus a pair of 121 locos) - 3 Cravens (192 seats, with large tables for every 4 seats), a side-corridor brake standard (50 seats) and a buffet car (40 or so seats - can't remember) and a generator van which also carried parcels, mail, bicycles and luggage. Total seating capacity almost 300 and this was the smallest train running to Rosslare. Despite the archaic carriage design, steam heating etc I can assure those of you not old enough to remember that it was a damn sight more pleasant experience than anything since the withdrawal of the MkIIs on the Rosslare line!

I should still think that the platform lengths thing is a load of crap that suits CIE/IE. What about the most dangerous platforms in the country - Cork and Connolly #5? Health & Safety appear to have no issues with these simply because there is no alternative to using them!!!

Thomas Ralph · 31-08-2009, 08:33

There's a world of a difference between a gap between the train and the platform and a person stepping off the carriage with no platform to land on.

Folks, can we please accept that a train which is longer than any platform on the line cannot run on the line unless there's a way of preventing people stepping off the train where there's no platform? This isn't something that can be fudged, it's not an "all right on the night", and the old announcements of "please move forward if you are in the last carriage" are no longer allowed. I don't want to have to lock the thread, but we're p***ing into the wind with this one.

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30-08-2009, 21:01	#3
PLUMB LOCO Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 146	I was just browsing through a box of old photos this evening and came across a pic of a typical Rosslare train about 1982 (6 bogies plus a pair of 121 locos) - 3 Cravens (192 seats, with large tables for every 4 seats), a side-corridor brake standard (50 seats) and a buffet car (40 or so seats - can't remember) and a generator van which also carried parcels, mail, bicycles and luggage. Total seating capacity almost 300 and this was the smallest train running to Rosslare. Despite the archaic carriage design, steam heating etc I can assure those of you not old enough to remember that it was a damn sight more pleasant experience than anything since the withdrawal of the MkIIs on the Rosslare line! I should still think that the platform lengths thing is a load of crap that suits CIE/IE. What about the most dangerous platforms in the country - Cork and Connolly #5? Health & Safety appear to have no issues with these simply because there is no alternative to using them!!!

31-08-2009, 08:33	#4
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	There's a world of a difference between a gap between the train and the platform and a person stepping off the carriage with no platform to land on. Folks, can we please accept that a train which is longer than any platform on the line cannot run on the line unless there's a way of preventing people stepping off the train where there's no platform? This isn't something that can be fudged, it's not an "all right on the night", and the old announcements of "please move forward if you are in the last carriage" are no longer allowed. I don't want to have to lock the thread, but we're p***ing into the wind with this one.