Cork Area Services - Page 3

Mark Gleeson · 22-05-2008, 20:40

There will be no trains in Cork tomorrow morning, the bulk of the driving staff has been removed from the payroll or will be by tomorrow morning.

We have been informed by various trustworthy sources that services elsewhere are at serious risk of vanishing, including DART services. We understand that the various depots country wide are debating what will happen tomorrow.

We won't know until between 9 am and 11 am if things are going to be bad or not, the morning rush may escape. However there is very real chance that there will a partial if not total suspension of service on several routes. Whichever way it goes there will not be a full timetabled service tomorrow given the ongoing shortage of drivers.

Given we have this information and believe it to be accurate we have an obligation to pass it on. We are being upfront, the least we can expect from Irish Rail is admission that there is a real risk to all services and that you should check before you travel.

There could of course be a magic two in the morning development as happened so many times, the usual rules apply check before you travel.

Mark Hennessy · 22-05-2008, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey H

I demand proof of your ridiculous claim of no trains running at all tomorrow. As far as I can see RUI are making this up to make Irish Rail look bad (worse)

Seriously before you accuse us of scaremongering take a look at the recent list of cencellations. Most have a post by Mark at least 24 hours in advance of said cancelation. We aren't making this up, OK!

chris · 22-05-2008, 21:18

Are the Enterprise staff sufficiently far removed from this debacle to run a full service tomorrow? Need to travel down tomorrow and haven't decided what train to take yet.

Mark Gleeson · 22-05-2008, 21:20

Trains staffed by NIR drivers should run normally, so first two enterprises Belfast Dublin should run.

Mark Hennessy · 23-05-2008, 04:35

Updates as of 5am

Quote:

Cork, Kerry, Galway & Athlone area service disruptions, Friday 23rd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications

UPDATE: 05.00hrs, Friday 23rd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters is causing significant disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster on Thursday, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

In addition, early services from Galway and Athlone are also affected this morning.

Full updated service information will be available on this webpage.

Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.

Friday 23rd May

It is expected that service disruption will continue today in Cork on Friday 23rd May.

Cancelled services this morning:

05.15 Cork-Heuston

06.30 Cork-Heuston

07.30 Cork-Heuston

08.30 Cork-Heuston

09.30 Cork-Heuston

All Cork/Cobh and Cork/Mallow services

08.50 Cork-Tralee

05.20 Galway-Heuston

05.05 Athlone-Heuston

Further details will be updated as soon as possible.

10.30hrs and 11.30hrs Cork to Heuston are expected to operate from Mallow only, with bus transfers from Cork to Mallow.

The 07.00hrs and 08.00hrs Heuston to Cork are likely to operate to Mallow only, with bus transfers from Mallow to Cork. The remainder of morning services are expected to be cancelled.

Some Cork/Tralee services are expected to be cancelled, with others operating between Tralee and Mallow only.

Further disruption is possible on Galway and Athlone services.

Mark Hennessy · 23-05-2008, 05:06

Galway services seem to be affected today.

Thankfully nothing else affected yet.

Quote:

Cork, Kerry, Galway & Athlone area service disruptions, Friday 23rd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications

UPDATE: 06.00hrs, Friday 23rd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters is causing significant disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster on Thursday, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

In addition, early services from Galway and Athlone are also affected this morning.

Full updated service information will be available on this webpage.

Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.

Friday 23rd May

Cancelled services this morning:

05.15 Cork-Heuston

06.30 Cork-Heuston

07.30 Cork-Heuston

08.30 Cork-Heuston

09.30 Cork-Heuston

All Cork/Cobh and Cork/Mallow services

05.25 Tralee-Cork

08.50 Cork-Tralee

05.20 Galway-Heuston

05.05 Athlone-Heuston

Further details will be updated as soon as possible.

Services operating between Dublin and Mallow (with bus transfers between Mallow and Cork)

07.00hrs Heuston to Cork

08.00hrs Heuston to Cork

10.30hrs Cork to Heuston

11.30hrs Cork to Heuston

Further disruption

Further disruption is possible on Galway and Athlone services (also affecting Westport), and will be updated as soon as available.

Disruption is expected to continue in Cork throughout the day, with commuter services remaining suspended; many Cork/Dublin and Cork/Tralee services cancelled, and other services operating between Dublin and Mallow only.

All other routes are operating normally.

Thomas Ralph · 23-05-2008, 06:13

Quote:

Update at 6:45

Friday 23rd May

Cancelled services this morning:

05.15 Cork-Heuston

06.30 Cork-Heuston

07.30 Cork-Heuston

08.30 Cork-Heuston

09.30 Cork-Heuston

All Cork/Cobh and Cork/Mallow services

05.25 Tralee-Cork

08.50 Cork-Tralee

05.20 Galway-Heuston

05.05 Athlone-Heuston

07.05 Athlone-Galway

07.15 Galway-Heuston

07.00 Westport-Heuston

Further details will be updated as soon as possible.

Services operating between Dublin and Mallow (with bus transfers between Mallow and Cork)

07.00hrs Heuston to Cork

08.00hrs Heuston to Cork

10.30hrs Cork to Heuston

11.30hrs Cork to Heuston

Further disruption

Further disruption is likely on Galway, Westport and Athlone services, and will be updated as soon as available.

Disruption is expected to continue in Cork throughout the day, with commuter services remaining suspended; many Cork/Dublin and Cork/Tralee services cancelled, and other services operating between Dublin and Mallow only.

All other routes are operating normally.

I need this like a hole in the bloody head. I have to get to Cork this evening because that's where my flight to the Heineken Cup final is. Well, first stop this morning is Sandymount station to see if the guy will refund me for my ticket that I advance-purchased.

Colm R · 23-05-2008, 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey H

I demand proof of your ridiculous claim of no trains running at all tomorrow. As far as I can see RUI are making this up to make Irish Rail look bad (worse)

To be honest, the people here seem to be on the ball. This topic was covered in the Cork Area Services thread yesterday and all the information was correct.

MrX · 23-05-2008, 07:01

Did management actually ask them to do something unreasonable?
Or, is it another hissy fit ?

Mark Hennessy · 23-05-2008, 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrX

Did management actually ask them to do something unreasonable?
Or, is it another hissy fit ?

I don't want to defend the unions (ever) because their work practices are not really helping but this was all avoidable.

The real problem is that the only people who suffer in all of this is us, the customers.

Colm R · 23-05-2008, 07:42

The 10:30 from Cork will be departing Mallow at 10:50. What is the likelyhood of this train being delayed into Heuston, due to arrive at 13:20. Any info would really be appreciated.

Mark Gleeson · 23-05-2008, 07:46

Just about everything Galway & Westport Dublin will be cancelled, small chance a number of trains may run only Dublin Athlone, possibly Dublin Galway Dublin.

15:00, 16:00 and 17:00 Dublin Mallow likely as are the 18:30,19:30,20:30 Cork Dublin but from Mallow only

Expect the 17:00 Dublin Mallow to be the last train south of Thurles tonight

10:30 ex Cork runs from Mallow and is likely to be on time

Colm R · 23-05-2008, 08:08

Cheers Mark

Colm R · 23-05-2008, 08:40

My Father is in Mallow. The southbound train has arrived. He was telling me that everyone is really nervous and rumours are crazy around the platform. He is confident it will run, albeit the rumours are making him anxious.

One of the rumours he heard, which is complete heresay, is the driver will return to Dublin but will refuse to take any passengers.

Donal Quinn · 23-05-2008, 08:47

looking at booking bus tickets but want to wait until last minute - any idea when we'll know about evening trains to galway???

Mark Gleeson · 23-05-2008, 08:50

Highly unlikely any trains to Galway to today all the evening trains are driven by Athlone and Galway drivers

If they are running we will know well in advance since a train would have to work from Athlone to Dublin

ThomasJ · 23-05-2008, 09:01

From Breaking News

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbmhkfcwoj/

Quote:

More services cancelled as train strike spreads
23/05/2008 - 07:19:51
A strike by Iarnród Éireann train drivers has spread this morning, with services cancelled in many parts of the country.

The company has been forced to abandon morning services from Galway, Athlone and Westport to Heuston Station in Dublin.

This is in addition to the cancellation of all morning services from Cork to Dublin, the early train from Tralee to Cork and all services between Cork and Cobh and Cork and Mallow.

The chaos was triggered yesterday after a driver was removed from the pay roll for refusing to co-operate with the training of new recruits.

Iarnród Éireann also says it cannot guarantee that the strike will not spread further today.
Trade unions have accused the company of deliberately provoking the dispute.

Donal Quinn · 23-05-2008, 09:13

thanks for the heads up - i'd feel a right chump wandering around heuston this evening - booked citylink instead - chaos ahead!

Colm R · 23-05-2008, 10:37

The 10:30, originally scheduled to leave Mallow at 10:50 left at 11:15. Not too bad over all I guess.

Mark Gleeson · 23-05-2008, 10:54

10:30 is meant to leave at 10:52.

Very much doubt it will be more than 10 minutes late into Dublin

22-05-2008, 20:40	#41
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There will be no trains in Cork tomorrow morning, the bulk of the driving staff has been removed from the payroll or will be by tomorrow morning. We have been informed by various trustworthy sources that services elsewhere are at serious risk of vanishing, including DART services. We understand that the various depots country wide are debating what will happen tomorrow. We won't know until between 9 am and 11 am if things are going to be bad or not, the morning rush may escape. However there is very real chance that there will a partial if not total suspension of service on several routes. Whichever way it goes there will not be a full timetabled service tomorrow given the ongoing shortage of drivers. Given we have this information and believe it to be accurate we have an obligation to pass it on. We are being upfront, the least we can expect from Irish Rail is admission that there is a real risk to all services and that you should check before you travel. There could of course be a magic two in the morning development as happened so many times, the usual rules apply check before you travel. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

22-05-2008, 21:20	#44
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Trains staffed by NIR drivers should run normally, so first two enterprises Belfast Dublin should run. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

23-05-2008, 07:46	#52
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Just about everything Galway & Westport Dublin will be cancelled, small chance a number of trains may run only Dublin Athlone, possibly Dublin Galway Dublin. 15:00, 16:00 and 17:00 Dublin Mallow likely as are the 18:30,19:30,20:30 Cork Dublin but from Mallow only Expect the 17:00 Dublin Mallow to be the last train south of Thurles tonight 10:30 ex Cork runs from Mallow and is likely to be on time __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 23-05-2008 at 07:50.

23-05-2008, 08:47	#55
Donal Quinn Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 267	looking at booking bus tickets but want to wait until last minute - any idea when we'll know about evening trains to galway??? __________________ It's the little things....

23-05-2008, 08:50	#56
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Highly unlikely any trains to Galway to today all the evening trains are driven by Athlone and Galway drivers If they are running we will know well in advance since a train would have to work from Athlone to Dublin __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

22-05-2008, 21:18	#43
chris Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 131	Are the Enterprise staff sufficiently far removed from this debacle to run a full service tomorrow? Need to travel down tomorrow and haven't decided what train to take yet.

23-05-2008, 07:01	#49
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	Did management actually ask them to do something unreasonable? Or, is it another hissy fit ?

23-05-2008, 07:42	#51
Colm R Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 106	The 10:30 from Cork will be departing Mallow at 10:50. What is the likelyhood of this train being delayed into Heuston, due to arrive at 13:20. Any info would really be appreciated.

23-05-2008, 08:08	#53
Colm R Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 106	Cheers Mark

23-05-2008, 08:40	#54
Colm R Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 106	My Father is in Mallow. The southbound train has arrived. He was telling me that everyone is really nervous and rumours are crazy around the platform. He is confident it will run, albeit the rumours are making him anxious. One of the rumours he heard, which is complete heresay, is the driver will return to Dublin but will refuse to take any passengers.

23-05-2008, 09:13	#58
Donal Quinn Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 267	thanks for the heads up - i'd feel a right chump wandering around heuston this evening - booked citylink instead - chaos ahead! __________________ It's the little things....

23-05-2008, 10:37	#59
Colm R Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 106	The 10:30, originally scheduled to leave Mallow at 10:50 left at 11:15. Not too bad over all I guess.

23-05-2008, 10:54	#60
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	10:30 is meant to leave at 10:52. Very much doubt it will be more than 10 minutes late into Dublin __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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