Sallins pay parking

Mark Gleeson · 12-12-2007, 12:05

That would be grand but

1. The car park is there already, its just extra spaces, you park in the old space you still get charged

2. Irish Rail have access to heaps of cash from the DoT to build these car parks, but keep claiming they need to make a return on the investment

3. Not all new/expanded cark parks are being charged for

plant43 · 12-12-2007, 12:25

Should I, as a taxpayer, not be entitled to seek a return on investment? I'm not very familiar with what's happening at Sallins, but does Irish Rail pick up the tab for the access improvment works? Did the expanding of the car park require the procurement of extra land? Fair point about 3, I would prefer to see all car parks charged for equally.

Mark Gleeson · 12-12-2007, 12:33

Thurles, Templemore not charged for

Fairly certain the expanded car park in Gormanston was done entirely on IE owned land. Its half empty

There is a DoT fund to pay for Park and Ride schemes, its there for the taking. Irish Rail are making it sound like they are paying for it and therefore need to recoup costs

The entire point of park and ride is to get someone out of their car and onto public transport. More people use public transport the lower the cost to the tax payer to provide it, less traffic

No one ever asks how a road will repay its captial costs, but public transport is forced to recoup every penny.

BrianDeBruce · 12-12-2007, 19:33

Hi,

With regard to the new Sallins car park, as this is part of the Waterways development, is this under the control of the developer or Irish Rail? If it is the developer, are they under any obligation to charge the same price as Irish Rail or can they charge what they like?

Also,does anyone know when the charge kicks off, or when the underground opens?

Thanks,
Brian

James_Lawless · 19-12-2007, 13:13

Hi James from NASRUG here.

There are 202 new spaces as part of the development.

There is a brand new underground car park part of the Waterways development and adjacent to station. The new carpark is looking good but the existing car parks not in great nick despite some work done recently. Need to chase up with IR in new year.

New underground section opened last weekend (15/16th Dec).

The charge is 5 euro for a 7-day ticket or 2 euro for a day pass.

There is no charge being applied until 31st December (we negotiated the waiver period to get it kicked off).

Thomas J Stamp · 19-12-2007, 14:17

Nenagh car park has just been re-developed.

Nice big sign put up by Irish Rail at the enterance: Free Car Park.

Just so you'd know.

dowlingm · 19-12-2007, 17:17

again - I have no problem with that. Nenagh services are not oversubscribed. When the car park is full start charging and funding a connecting bus from the proceeds. That's how this should work!

12-12-2007, 12:05	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	That would be grand but 1. The car park is there already, its just extra spaces, you park in the old space you still get charged 2. Irish Rail have access to heaps of cash from the DoT to build these car parks, but keep claiming they need to make a return on the investment 3. Not all new/expanded cark parks are being charged for __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

12-12-2007, 12:33	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Thurles, Templemore not charged for Fairly certain the expanded car park in Gormanston was done entirely on IE owned land. Its half empty There is a DoT fund to pay for Park and Ride schemes, its there for the taking. Irish Rail are making it sound like they are paying for it and therefore need to recoup costs The entire point of park and ride is to get someone out of their car and onto public transport. More people use public transport the lower the cost to the tax payer to provide it, less traffic No one ever asks how a road will repay its captial costs, but public transport is forced to recoup every penny. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

19-12-2007, 13:13	#5
James_Lawless New to the board Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sallins, Kildare Posts: 13	Hi James from NASRUG here. There are 202 new spaces as part of the development. There is a brand new underground car park part of the Waterways development and adjacent to station. The new carpark is looking good but the existing car parks not in great nick despite some work done recently. Need to chase up with IR in new year. New underground section opened last weekend (15/16th Dec). The charge is 5 euro for a 7-day ticket or 2 euro for a day pass. There is no charge being applied until 31st December (we negotiated the waiver period to get it kicked off). __________________ Naas & Sallins Rail Users - online Last edited by James_Lawless : 19-12-2007 at 13:17.

19-12-2007, 14:17	#6
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Nenagh car park has just been re-developed. Nice big sign put up by Irish Rail at the enterance: Free Car Park. Just so you'd know. __________________ We are the passengers

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12-12-2007, 12:25	#2
plant43 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 278	Should I, as a taxpayer, not be entitled to seek a return on investment? I'm not very familiar with what's happening at Sallins, but does Irish Rail pick up the tab for the access improvment works? Did the expanding of the car park require the procurement of extra land? Fair point about 3, I would prefer to see all car parks charged for equally.

12-12-2007, 19:33	#4
BrianDeBruce New to the board Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nás Na Ríogh Posts: 18	Hi, With regard to the new Sallins car park, as this is part of the Waterways development, is this under the control of the developer or Irish Rail? If it is the developer, are they under any obligation to charge the same price as Irish Rail or can they charge what they like? Also,does anyone know when the charge kicks off, or when the underground opens? Thanks, Brian

19-12-2007, 17:17	#7
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	again - I have no problem with that. Nenagh services are not oversubscribed. When the car park is full start charging and funding a connecting bus from the proceeds. That's how this should work!