contested fine to no avail.....

andyl222 · 09-04-2007, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

You got two choices
1 Pay in person Connolly tomorrow
2 Go to court and it looks like IE are looking forward to that

Now what happens if IE refuse to take your money tomorrow, does that make it null and void??

That's a very good question, can they refuse to allow me to pay my fine??? In this instance the banks aren't open today, I don't have access to my account (let's just say, hypothetically), surely they must give me the extra day to pay my fine..... Or maybe as you said Mark, they're quite looking forward to dragging me to court. I'll be sending those registered letters to IE and their public relations office tomorrow morning. I'll wait and see how they get responded to.

Mark Gleeson · 09-04-2007, 15:11

Its corparate communications and I wouldn't bother

Man you want is General Manager Northern and Eastern, his station, his train, all staff on the Maynooth line report to him even the revenue guys

andyl222 · 09-04-2007, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Its corparate communications and I wouldn't bother

Man you want is General Manager Northern and Eastern, his station, his train, all staff on the Maynooth line report to him even the revenue guys

Do you know where I could find his mailing address?

Mark Gleeson · 09-04-2007, 18:46

http://www.platform11.org/passenger_info/whoswho.php#IE

Cal Carmichael
General Manager Northern and Eastern
Iarnród Éireann
Connolly Station
Dublin 1

andyl222 · 09-04-2007, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

http://www.platform11.org/passenger_info/whoswho.php#IE

Cal Carmichael
General Manager Northern and Eastern
Iarnród Éireann
Connolly Station
Dublin 1

Do you think contacting Mr. Carmichael and voicing my disappointment with the manner in which Mr. Byrne has handled this situation (attaching a full transcript of our correspondences) could have any effect???

Mark Gleeson · 09-04-2007, 21:13

Unlikely but Mr Carmichael reports the CEO and is responsible for all matters excluding infrastructure which happens on his patch, which includes the Sligo line

The early train is his problem as is Mr Byrne who reports to the three General Managers (N&E, S&W and DART)

ThomasJ · 10-04-2007, 18:01

I have just arrived for a train to town at coolmine coming from the coolmine side. The gates went down so i went to open the gate on the city bound platform side. And it was locked. I have an annual ticket so in my opinion i should not be made walk to the ticket office side. So i waited for seven to eight minutes as both a connolly and longford train was passing. I went to the ticket office and was told that the gate only opens between seven and nine. I was not in a hurry so did not mind waiting the extra ten or so minutes but if it was twenty past one and that happened and as a result of that i had to wait an hour for the next train i would have gone mad. It really is a disgrace and discriminates against those coming from the coolmine side.

Mark Hennessy · 12-04-2007, 08:23

A letter in todays metro outlines another story of a D15 commuter who got fined whilst getting on the train in Ashtown. Same kinda story, running for the train coming from the new apts there and offered to pay for a ticket in Pearse.

Surely it is time for IE to put TVM's on the Dublin bound platforms in Clonsilla and Ashtown.

clonsilladart · 12-04-2007, 21:28

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Originally Posted by markh

Surely it is time for IE to put TVM's on the Dublin bound platforms in Clonsilla and Ashtown.

They are on the Dublin bound platform at Clonsilla.... It's Coolmine where they are not.

Mark Hennessy · 13-04-2007, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonsilladart

They are on the Dublin bound platform at Clonsilla.... It's Coolmine where they are not.

Yep sorry meant Coolmine.

andyl222 · 14-04-2007, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by markh

A letter in todays metro outlines another story of a D15 commuter who got fined whilst getting on the train in Ashtown. Same kinda story, running for the train coming from the new apts there and offered to pay for a ticket in Pearse.

Surely it is time for IE to put TVM's on the Dublin bound platforms in Clonsilla and Ashtown.

I read that particular letter, once again the misconception that you can pay at your destination has been the cause for this issue. In the letter the woman mentioned how the inspector took all her details under the guise of sending her a bill for her 2 euro ticket, then when he had all her information proceeded to issue her fine. Its ridiculous that this unscrupulous behaviour can be accepted from IE staff.

Thomas J Stamp · 14-04-2007, 22:47

1. If you are late - you're late. Get the next train.

2. The SI is quite explicit - when the booking office is closed you may pay on the train (if there is a conductor/ticket checker) or pay at destination.

3. Only since the arrivals of TVM's at certain stations have we seen the introduction of the Venus Fly Traps in City Centre

4. If i have to spell it out for you - you are too stupid to get a train in the first place.

Colm Donoghue · 16-04-2007, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

1. If you are late - you're late. Get the next train.

4. If i have to spell it out for you - you are too stupid to get a train in the first place.

1. What if you arrive at Connolly at 23:15 and the ticket office's closed?
I'ts a looong wait til the next train.

2. What is a booking office? If you can't book seats to intercity stations (Arklow) I'm pretty sure you can't book tickets on commuter services.

4. Hamiltonian mathematics are difficult. Look this up on wikipedia.

14-04-2007, 22:47	#12
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	clarification - with solicitor hat on 1. If you are late - you're late. Get the next train. 2. The SI is quite explicit - when the booking office is closed you may pay on the train (if there is a conductor/ticket checker) or pay at destination. 3. Only since the arrivals of TVM's at certain stations have we seen the introduction of the Venus Fly Traps in City Centre 4. If i have to spell it out for you - you are too stupid to get a train in the first place. __________________ We are the passengers Last edited by Thomas J Stamp : 15-04-2007 at 08:00.

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09-04-2007, 15:11	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its corparate communications and I wouldn't bother Man you want is General Manager Northern and Eastern, his station, his train, all staff on the Maynooth line report to him even the revenue guys

09-04-2007, 18:46	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	http://www.platform11.org/passenger_info/whoswho.php#IE Cal Carmichael General Manager Northern and Eastern Iarnród Éireann Connolly Station Dublin 1

09-04-2007, 21:13	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Unlikely but Mr Carmichael reports the CEO and is responsible for all matters excluding infrastructure which happens on his patch, which includes the Sligo line The early train is his problem as is Mr Byrne who reports to the three General Managers (N&E, S&W and DART)

10-04-2007, 18:01	#7
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	I have just arrived for a train to town at coolmine coming from the coolmine side. The gates went down so i went to open the gate on the city bound platform side. And it was locked. I have an annual ticket so in my opinion i should not be made walk to the ticket office side. So i waited for seven to eight minutes as both a connolly and longford train was passing. I went to the ticket office and was told that the gate only opens between seven and nine. I was not in a hurry so did not mind waiting the extra ten or so minutes but if it was twenty past one and that happened and as a result of that i had to wait an hour for the next train i would have gone mad. It really is a disgrace and discriminates against those coming from the coolmine side.

12-04-2007, 08:23	#8
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	A letter in todays metro outlines another story of a D15 commuter who got fined whilst getting on the train in Ashtown. Same kinda story, running for the train coming from the new apts there and offered to pay for a ticket in Pearse. Surely it is time for IE to put TVM's on the Dublin bound platforms in Clonsilla and Ashtown.