Busking on the dart

Thomas J Stamp · 12-03-2007, 17:30

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Originally Posted by colmd

I'd wonder how this would stack up against article 41.6.1 of bunreacht na hEireann, if it's matter of public order or if it's immoral.

One of my lecturers once told me that you only mention the constitution when you havent got a real case. He was right, as it happens.

MrX · 12-03-2007, 17:50

Damn! You mean I can't bring my gramophone on the Enterprise or CDE/MK4.. I'd love to see how the needle would hold up

The free trinkets reminds me of a book club, we had some random company send books to our house and then try to bill us for them (no one had signed anything).
After a few threatening letters, I wrote to them suggesting that they pay the €800 storage fee that I was now charging for the safe keeping of their books.

Never heard from them again.

Colm Donoghue · 12-03-2007, 18:04

touche TJS.

To be fair I couldn't see a prosecution against someone for using their mobile phone on a train holding up. or for using a walkman.

Kat · 16-11-2007, 20:03

Hi Mark. There is no IE officals on the train to report it and how can you report it to the driver when you don't see him and to be honest after along day work and commute the last thing you want to be doing us waiting around for the gardai to come and deal with them.

Mark Gleeson · 16-11-2007, 20:17

The train has a driver and in my experience if you report something they will take very quick action. Simply march up to the front of the train and you will find the driver

Sadly in some cases this will result in a delay to the train, but that sends a message that anti-social and other illegal activaties will not be tolerated which creates an image of a safe public transport system

KSW · 16-11-2007, 21:48

Bang on Mark. No-one should be frightened on any public service as this will not be tolerated. The train driver will be very quick in reacting to this matter.

ThomasJ · 27-08-2008, 13:42

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23. (1) No person while upon the railway or in any vehicle shall to the annoyance of any other person or if requested not to do so by an authorised person, sing, perform on any musical or other instrument or use any gramophone, record player, tape recorder or portable wireless or television apparatus.

Just got a glimpse on the statute book and some of the guidelines it doesn't really concern present times does it? do you know of someone who owns a gramophone or carrys around a record player, tape recorder?

Colm Moore · 27-08-2008, 16:59

I own two tape players, but no, I don't carry them around.

The objective was to prevent rules lawyering.

Thomas J Stamp · 31-08-2008, 22:10

Thanks to bloody IE I cant play my Cole Porter 33's anymore as the needle keeps skipping due to the fecking bumpy track

after all that time i spent in that swiss deportment school with those nubile teenage girls learning how to balance the record player on my lap and all.

i shall be sending them my invoice

weehamster · 31-08-2008, 22:41

Yo Yo Yo! Dis goes out to all my Brothers & Sisters on d DART crew. Respect to d R.U.I. posse - WORD

Alan French · 02-01-2009, 20:57

Busking is another of those issues where total bans can be over the top, and total permission can be disastrous too. I remember someone trying to argue that it was an issue of freedom of speech, and I thought: he's not helping his cause. Busking has legitimacy only insofar as it adds atmosphere to a place; it cannot be a right. Which points back to a licensing system, as some countries have.

I think some buskers I have seen on the DART are Hungarian gipsies. In Hungary there is more of a tradition of gipsy musicians playing in all sorts of places (e.g. restuarants), and expected to be paid by the listeners, unlike here where they would be paid by the owner of the place.

12-03-2007, 17:50	#2
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	Damn! You mean I can't bring my gramophone on the Enterprise or CDE/MK4.. I'd love to see how the needle would hold up The free trinkets reminds me of a book club, we had some random company send books to our house and then try to bill us for them (no one had signed anything). After a few threatening letters, I wrote to them suggesting that they pay the €800 storage fee that I was now charging for the safe keeping of their books. Never heard from them again. Last edited by MrX : 12-03-2007 at 17:52.

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The train has a driver and in my experience if you report something they will take very quick action. Simply march up to the front of the train and you will find the driver Sadly in some cases this will result in a delay to the train, but that sends a message that anti-social and other illegal activaties will not be tolerated which creates an image of a safe public transport system __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 16-11-2007 at 20:22.

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Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Thanks to bloody IE I cant play my Cole Porter 33's anymore as the needle keeps skipping due to the fecking bumpy track after all that time i spent in that swiss deportment school with those nubile teenage girls learning how to balance the record player on my lap and all. i shall be sending them my invoice __________________ We are the passengers

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weehamster Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cathair Bhaile Átha Cliath Posts: 199	Yo Yo Yo! Dis goes out to all my Brothers & Sisters on d DART crew. Respect to d R.U.I. posse - WORD __________________ R.I.P. T21 Eradicate Fianna Fáil (Totally)

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12-03-2007, 18:04	#3
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	touche TJS. To be fair I couldn't see a prosecution against someone for using their mobile phone on a train holding up. or for using a walkman.

16-11-2007, 20:03	#4
Kat New to the board Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11	Hi Mark. There is no IE officals on the train to report it and how can you report it to the driver when you don't see him and to be honest after along day work and commute the last thing you want to be doing us waiting around for the gardai to come and deal with them.

16-11-2007, 21:48	#6
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	Bang on Mark. No-one should be frightened on any public service as this will not be tolerated. The train driver will be very quick in reacting to this matter.

27-08-2008, 16:59	#8
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I own two tape players, but no, I don't carry them around. The objective was to prevent rules lawyering.

02-01-2009, 20:57	#11
Alan French Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 89	Busking is another of those issues where total bans can be over the top, and total permission can be disastrous too. I remember someone trying to argue that it was an issue of freedom of speech, and I thought: he's not helping his cause. Busking has legitimacy only insofar as it adds atmosphere to a place; it cannot be a right. Which points back to a licensing system, as some countries have. I think some buskers I have seen on the DART are Hungarian gipsies. In Hungary there is more of a tradition of gipsy musicians playing in all sorts of places (e.g. restuarants), and expected to be paid by the listeners, unlike here where they would be paid by the owner of the place.