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Graham · 02-07-2006, 20:30

I'll try and get some during the week.

Thank you very much for all of that MrX, and lostcarpark – most enlightening

Regarding the CDE interior, I shall take your word for it so until I have an opportunity to use it! Certainly on closer inspection the seating looks very comfortable (if a bit frumpy in design), and the plastic fittings are very stylishly moulded – the diffused lighting also quite elegant. What’s the lighting like at seat level though, given there’s no over-seat or over-window lighting?

I generally tend to prefer darker interiors, but that’s just a personal thing, probably formed by exposure to the 2900s! Suppose I have an affinity with it from morning commuting – the Enterprise has got a dark cabin interior perfectly suited to early-morning sleeping, as everyone who uses it knows! And the carpet everywhere generats a more muted, softer experience. But yes the Enterprise can feel very depressing, though bizarrely more on a sunny day than a dull one! In overcast or wet/cold conditions it’s nice to get into the cosy dark Enterprise with its warm central tungsten lighting, while it’s more depressing on a sunny day to have to board into gloom.

However the CDE more than makes up for the slightly harder interior with good design; the bright interior is well served with crisp, clean lines – lines the Enterprise patches over with shadows

. Those light blue curtains will get manky rather quickly though won’t they? Does the CDE have carpet up to the windows by the way?

The Heathrow Express is simply stunning – wow! Is that a first class carriage, or standard? An excellent firm judging by their site. More of this please.
By the way, how is the CDE first class marketed? – plain ‘first class’ or the more PC ‘First Plus’?

Thanks for the DMU information – given Rotem’s site it would appear that these intercitys are the highest spec DMUs they’ve yet produced, and their most challenging order with dining cars etc too.
So if DMUs, does this mean dreaded underslung engines for our new Intercity fleet? Have engine developments moved on since they lumped us with the 2900s? It would be a disaster if we got anything near what our current DMUs force on patrons, and for the image of rail travel in Ireland. Are DMUs being acquired over push-pulls for flexibility and reliability? – and they now standard stock in Europe for use on such routes?

I see the Indo reported that the final 30 in 2007-8 will be used in the GDA which is good to see, hopefully to offer some relief from the dominance of 2900s in this area – otherwise will the new DMUs be used country-wide to replace the MK II? Will they merely replace them in number or will there be a surplus with this Rotem order?

Thanks! (did a search, but not much info

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02-07-2006, 20:30	#1
Graham New to the board Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: crawling behind a DART Posts: 25	I'll try and get some during the week. Thank you very much for all of that MrX, and lostcarpark – most enlightening Regarding the CDE interior, I shall take your word for it so until I have an opportunity to use it! Certainly on closer inspection the seating looks very comfortable (if a bit frumpy in design), and the plastic fittings are very stylishly moulded – the diffused lighting also quite elegant. What’s the lighting like at seat level though, given there’s no over-seat or over-window lighting? I generally tend to prefer darker interiors, but that’s just a personal thing, probably formed by exposure to the 2900s! Suppose I have an affinity with it from morning commuting – the Enterprise has got a dark cabin interior perfectly suited to early-morning sleeping, as everyone who uses it knows! And the carpet everywhere generats a more muted, softer experience. But yes the Enterprise can feel very depressing, though bizarrely more on a sunny day than a dull one! In overcast or wet/cold conditions it’s nice to get into the cosy dark Enterprise with its warm central tungsten lighting, while it’s more depressing on a sunny day to have to board into gloom. However the CDE more than makes up for the slightly harder interior with good design; the bright interior is well served with crisp, clean lines – lines the Enterprise patches over with shadows . Those light blue curtains will get manky rather quickly though won’t they? Does the CDE have carpet up to the windows by the way? The Heathrow Express is simply stunning – wow! Is that a first class carriage, or standard? An excellent firm judging by their site. More of this please. By the way, how is the CDE first class marketed? – plain ‘first class’ or the more PC ‘First Plus’? Thanks for the DMU information – given Rotem’s site it would appear that these intercitys are the highest spec DMUs they’ve yet produced, and their most challenging order with dining cars etc too. So if DMUs, does this mean dreaded underslung engines for our new Intercity fleet? Have engine developments moved on since they lumped us with the 2900s? It would be a disaster if we got anything near what our current DMUs force on patrons, and for the image of rail travel in Ireland. Are DMUs being acquired over push-pulls for flexibility and reliability? – and they now standard stock in Europe for use on such routes? I see the Indo reported that the final 30 in 2007-8 will be used in the GDA which is good to see, hopefully to offer some relief from the dominance of 2900s in this area – otherwise will the new DMUs be used country-wide to replace the MK II? Will they merely replace them in number or will there be a surplus with this Rotem order? Thanks! (did a search, but not much info )