Rail Users Ireland Forum

Go Back   Rail Users Ireland Forum > Irish Rail Customer Service Issues > Commuter Services > Longford-Maynooth-Dunboyne-Clonsilla-Dublin line
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Unread 12-04-2006, 10:13   #21
Thomas J Stamp
Chairman/Publicity
 
Thomas J Stamp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Home of Hurling
Posts: 2,708
Default

You can bet your bottom dollor that entire area will get built upon sometime, a la pelletstown. Dont know who owns it, but imagaine sitting on it whilst the price simply shoots up.

If you want to look at what can be done with it take a look at Howth Junction. That was a similarly scary place as well. Remember the old ticket booth? The reason why the ticket sellers were so far inside was because someone sprayed them with lighter fluid once and threw in a match to get them outso it could be robbed. Hopefully now the new station will eliminate all of that history. Same could be done in Cabra but I guess only when all that wasteland is built upon.
Thomas J Stamp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-04-2006, 13:56   #22
Gobdaw
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 54
Default

The "field" between the railway and the industrial units originally were for cattle, in connection with the old cattle market between Prussia and Aughrim Streets, now built on as Drunalee road, etc. Cattle would be held there in connection with train transfers at the then named station of Liffey Junction.

So it is likely that it is owned by CIE. Certainly it is prime land for redevelopement. I'd love a piece of that!
Gobdaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13-04-2006, 15:42   #23
jjbrien
New to the board
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Drumcondra, Dublin
Posts: 7
Default

Im am always amazed at the vandels at Broombridge. I rember in 2003 Irish rail putdown a nice brick platform and the local yobs managedto take the bricks out one at a time and place them on the track. Now IE have used tarmac on the platform. The valdels themselfs also burn out that warehouse next to the station back in 2002.
jjbrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13-04-2006, 15:48   #24
PaulM
Really Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 826
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjbrien
The valdels themselfs also burn out that warehouse next to the station back in 2002.
I remember that. Broombridge really is a marvel of modern vandalism.
PaulM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13-04-2006, 15:55   #25
Kevin K Kelehan
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: West Tower
Posts: 355
Default

Without high end graffiti
Kevin K Kelehan is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13-04-2006, 15:59   #26
Mark Gleeson
Technical Officer
 
Mark Gleeson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Coach C, Seat 33
Posts: 12,669
Default

The one thing which makes Broombridge different is the fact the vandals appear to be very skilled and well equipped with tools, these aren't your average bored teenager these vandals come with blot cutters and other tools its almost impossible to win. You wish they would go off an do a fas course or something where they could get employment as they clearly got skills.
Mark Gleeson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13-04-2006, 20:15   #27
sean
Member
 
sean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Dublin
Posts: 707
Default

Maybe put up a juicy target like a TVM or something and then have army commandos waiting, hiding, and when the skanger crew shows up with petrol bombs/whatever, let the commandos lose to "bang heads together" literally.
sean is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 15-04-2006, 13:33   #28
jjbrien
New to the board
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Drumcondra, Dublin
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson
The one thing which makes Broombridge different is the fact the vandals appear to be very skilled and well equipped with tools, these aren't your average bored teenager these vandals come with blot cutters and other tools its almost impossible to win. You wish they would go off an do a fas course or something where they could get employment as they clearly got skills.
Thats funny as there is a fas training center next to the burnt out warehouse. Maybe thats where they learnt thier trade.
jjbrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26-07-2006, 09:35   #29
Thomas J Stamp
Chairman/Publicity
 
Thomas J Stamp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Home of Hurling
Posts: 2,708
Default

eugene, whats the story with Boombridge these days? Do many people use it, does the 122 bus go near the station?
__________________
We are the passengers
Thomas J Stamp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27-07-2006, 14:23   #30
eugene
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 132
Default

Only been getting off at Broombridge a few times over the last week, about 10 people get off with me.

Waiting for the new station between Broombridge and Ashtown to be buillt someday, closer to where I live

Dont know about the 122 but have taken the 120 out of Royal Canal Park sometimes

Last edited by eugene : 27-07-2006 at 14:25.
eugene is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27-07-2006, 20:18   #31
Thomas J Stamp
Chairman/Publicity
 
Thomas J Stamp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Home of Hurling
Posts: 2,708
Default

Maybe its the 120 im thinking off, which is the old 12, and thre 122 is the old 22 and 22A. They were remaned when Bob montgonerie revamped BAC back in the early 90's. New buses, new routes and the idea that you should use mini buses to places like cabra and save the double deckers further out.

Of course he was never going to last.
__________________
We are the passengers
Thomas J Stamp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27-07-2006, 20:51   #32
Derek Wheeler
Registered user
 
Derek Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kildare
Posts: 1,555
Default

Monty is sadly missed and yes, it was obvious he wouldn't last. The words visionary and CIE don't mix well.

As for "the broomer", it was an ill-conceived idea from day one. A new station was put in an area that was built in the late 30s/early 40s and was only accessible to a fraction of the area. It already had donkeys years of CIE bus methodology, that conditioned the folks there, so they had a pattern laid out for themselves. Furthermore, it was only the locals who knew that the station area was somewhat dodgy for a long time and the 22 bus stop was a better place to be. Close it down, redevelop the land around it and plonk a station at the original junction point with cctv, good access and cleansed of junkies, hippies and general scumbags, and we might have a case for developing a decent station in the area that people will need and feel safe using. Funnily enough, CIE have a feck load of land up there, but seem very slow to get going on it. RPA/T21 plans a luas to this point. Maybe they know something we don't.

Regardless, the railway site is a no mans land, controlled by burnt out cars, Bulmers/dutch gold on a bad day drinkers and flashers. In a country that proclaims to be so rich, its a shame that its way down the list.

Watch out for the shopping trolleys on the track and the flying rocks that sometimes find passing trains.
Derek Wheeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23-08-2007, 14:02   #33
eugene
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 132
Default

Just wondering if there's any movement on the construction of Pelletstown/Royal Canal Park station as yet? Seems to be going on for 3 years now

Last edited by eugene : 23-08-2007 at 14:13.
eugene is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-12-2007, 22:38   #34
shanahap
New to the board
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 6
Default

I have some general questions and observations about Broombridge.

I would hope the luas line goes ahead to Liffey Jct and assume Broombridge would be moved down a bit towards batchelors factory instead of where it is now. Hopefully it won't be closed if Royal Canal Park/Ashington station ever gets built. I believe there are no current plans for another station at Harts Corner/Brian Boru Pub in Glasnevin Phibsboro, I have sent an observation about this to the people who are preparing the Phibsboro Local Area Plan in Dublin City Council.

Will the level crossing ever be replaced by a bridge at Ratoath Road? The traffic around there is shocking in the mornings with queues of cars back as far as Cappagh Hospital sometimes. There is land by the Ratoath Estate and on the other side the Ormond Printing company is looking a bit derelict these days. I assume the reilly's bridge is listed and won't be demolished.

I am living in Cabra for a while now and it is a 20 min walk to Broombridge so I dont use it too often as it is only 35 mins into town on foot or 5-10mins on the bike.
My girlfriend uses the station once or twice a week to travel to Leixlip instead of driving and some days the place is in an awful state. Water gathers on the westbound platform that is a few inches deep. The options are

1) wading and having wet feet all day in work.
2) climbing down the embankment from the bridge through the grass.
3) going to the eastbound platform and crossing the tracks.


She wrote to IE two months ago and still hasnt heard back.

Also about 1/3 of the lights are broken which makes it feel even more unsafe.
A planning application is in for 288 Bannow Road (One of the derelict factory sites) for apartments so that may be the beginning of the redevelopment of the area. Here's hoping.




Quote:
Originally Posted by eugene View Post
Just wondering if there's any movement on the construction of Pelletstown/Royal Canal Park station as yet? Seems to be going on for 3 years now
shanahap is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2007, 17:34   #35
Mark Gleeson
Technical Officer
 
Mark Gleeson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Coach C, Seat 33
Posts: 12,669
Default

Reilly's Gates are to be replaced by a bridge, its not IE's problem, its local council its been mentioned and discussed to death here. The bridge would be slightly east of the canal bridge and in doing so will eliminate the chicane like road layout currently in place

There is a plan for a station at Pelletstown and that the existing Broombridge station would be replaced with one 200m closer to Dublin linking with the Luas

Irish Rail don't do complaint handling, it more a case of ignore you and you will go away

However if Irish Rail don't like to talk, the Rail Safety Commission do and a station with no name displayed, with an unsafe platform surface, railings with gaps and little or no lighting it is in breech of a whole heap of rules the questions is are the rules retrospective or just for new
Mark Gleeson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2007, 19:03   #36
philip
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 632
Default

Reilly's gates could be replaced with an underpass if the bridge is causing problems with planning. More expensive but a better quality solution.
philip is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2007, 23:41   #37
StephenM
Regular Poster
 
StephenM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back using the car due poor service
Posts: 135
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson View Post
However if Irish Rail don't like to talk, the Rail Safety Commission do and a station with no name displayed, with an unsafe platform surface, railings with gaps and little or no lighting it is in breech of a whole heap of rules the questions is are the rules retrospective or just for new
Considering that Manulla Junction has no signs at all on the Ballina side of the platform is that an issue that would go against the RSC?
StephenM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2007, 00:10   #38
Mark Gleeson
Technical Officer
 
Mark Gleeson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Coach C, Seat 33
Posts: 12,669
Default

But Manualla Junction has a well lit, clean platform

Broombridge looks like a cruise missile landed next door
Mark Gleeson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2007, 09:56   #39
StephenM
Regular Poster
 
StephenM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back using the car due poor service
Posts: 135
Default

You have a point there.
StephenM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2007, 12:39   #40
KSW
Really Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rosslare Line
Posts: 600
Default

Broombridge looks like a bomb went off. The platform looks dirty and unclean looking not to mention unsafe. If i was a tourist travelling on that line my immediate reaction would be a bad area......
KSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:48.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.