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Unread 11-01-2006, 11:31   #41
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The Sidney Parade bug is really quite simple as IE changed the spelling from Sidney (correct) to Sydney (incorrect but consistent) the voice recordings don't have one for Sydney Parade. Version 8 (our numbers not IE) which appeared on Monday last also has the bug

The signs are at the right height there is a requirement that they can be viewed even if the platform is full of people, once you have seat you are fine

The maps is just plain strange, its so simple, you need 998 maps

We have received no response to earlier complaints from the suburban office and the matter will be referred to a higher level tomorrow in fact
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Unread 11-01-2006, 14:18   #42
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The signs are at the right height there is a requirement that they can be viewed even if the platform is full of people, once you have seat you are fine
If this is a legal requirement then Broombridge immediately springs to mind as a law breaker. Some of the other Maynooth line stations could be dodgy too.
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Unread 11-01-2006, 16:18   #43
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Wednesday 11-1-2006

16:08 Bray Howth
No maps, PIS or announcements
Also showing wrong destination on rear "Bray"

16:20 Bray Howth
No destination show on rear coach 8401

17:15 Bray Howth
Lead coach 8117 was devoid of maps
Rear was not showing a destination but Out of Service

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Unread 11-01-2006, 22:28   #44
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Default You can always read tube station / London signs!

You *ALWAYS* see a very large number of signs go past your window in any below / above ground station in London.

Why can't IE do this too ?

It's not rocket science.. you put up a larger number of bigger signs that are actually ledgable without binoculars!

Also, why can't they be backlit / front lit?!
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Unread 12-01-2006, 18:07   #45
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Thursday 12-1-2006

17:50 Pearse Drogheda
No external side displays working

17:15 Bray Malahide
No external electronic displays working
Rear coach showing Out of Service as the destination (same train 4 days in a row now with OOS on the back but different coaches)

8613/14/15/16 today

17:25 Bray Howth
Rear coach showing "Bray"

17:45 Bray Howth
No destination shown on rear coach
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DART at aprox 17:50 @ Pearse heading towards Bray.

No voice announcements except "This train is for Bray" at seemingly random intervals.
LED maps working perfectly. this is the first time I've seen one work!
Scrolling display was also correct and accurate.
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Unread 12-01-2006, 20:50   #47
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Well if that was the 17:54 Pearse to Bray which showed up late I was onboard

Thats normal behaviour if the train is led by the older LHB units, the maps work and the displays but it won't state the station name. The driver can't shut the system down if it goes wrong from the lead cab
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Unread 12-01-2006, 22:15   #48
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ah that makes sense now.

Seems a pity that they can't just hook it up to the PA on the LHB units.
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Unread 12-01-2006, 23:06   #49
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ah that makes sense now.
Seems a pity that they can't just hook it up to the PA on the LHB units.
I was in the front coach and the PA works its worked for ages is there if a fitted unit at the back, its surprising in many ways that it does

The entire fleet will be fitted by end 2006, currently more than half of the available fleet is fully equipped
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Friday 13-1-2006

8.05 Greystones Howth
No PIS or announcements, no printed maps either in coach 8602

17:25 Howth Bray
No destination show on front coach 8405

17:15 Brau Malahide
Showing Bray as destination on rear

17:50 Pearse Dundalk
No external displays working
29x15/05

17:45 Bray Howth
No destination show on rear coach

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Unread 13-01-2006, 09:57   #51
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Who makes this/these announcement/PIS systems?
Is it one system across the entire fleet or do we have a Mitusi system, a CAF system and an Alstom system?

Also, in Barcelona I noticed a system similar to some of the DARTs that announced in a very polished voice in Spanish and Catalan "Chime" (next station) "proxima estación" (female) followed by a gruff male voice with the station name. It was comical!

The other funny bit is the Spanish vs Catalan bilingual signage. Sometimes the only difference is one accent or a single letter changes.
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Unread 13-01-2006, 16:25   #52
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Who makes this/these announcement/PIS systems?
Is it one system across the entire fleet or do we have a Mitusi system, a CAF system and an Alstom system?
The DART and 2800 series units share the same kit, the 29000 is different and is more tightly intergrated with the on train computer
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Monday 16-1-2006

8:05 Greystones Howth
All was well till Sidney Parade
Next Station <silence>

All the Air Con units suffer from this bug

17:15 Bray Malahide
Showing Bray as the destination on rear (6 days running now)

17:25 Howth Bray
Map display system gave up at Pearse as did the electronic display
Strangely the announcements kept working apart from Sidney Parade
The now classsic Next Station <silence>
Also showing Howth as the destination on rear

19:05 Howth Greystones
Announcements and displays not working
8401/8201/8608/8607

21:48 Bray Malahide
Rear coach showing Bray as destination

22:10 Greystones Malahide
Rear coach showing Greystones as destination

22:20 Howth Bray
No destination shown in front
Announcements and displays working but displays showing only destination no next station
No maps in coach 8401
8401/8201/8608/8607

22:30 Pearse Maynooth
External displays switched on for about 2 seconds and died
29x18+21

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Unread 16-01-2006, 19:48   #54
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Default Arrrghhh, so close but IE manage to screw up again!

On the 09.55 Clonsilla-Pearse this morning the PIS all worked spiffingly until we departed from Broombridge. Upon departing there the audible PIS went silent and the LED displays just kept scrolling "8" and then "06", repeating continuously. The system snapped out of it's malaise when the "The next station is Drumcondra" announcement bellowed and all returned to correct operation (I was going to write 'normal' but normal for IE is not 'correctly operational'). Car no. was 29108.

Other balls ups I spotted today;
11.13 DART Tara-Bray, car 8633 (and whatever it was coupled to) had no side displays at all functioning.

10.23 Connolly-Pearse (don't know origin), car 29412 and the rest of the train had no side displays in order.

I actually only saw 1 train with everthing correct on it today.
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Unread 17-01-2006, 09:22   #55
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Default Which DMUs have PIS fitted?

Do all DMUs have some sort of PIS system fitted?
Does it operate on non-Dublin commuter services? E.g. Cobh-Cork-Mallow.
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Unread 17-01-2006, 09:34   #56
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Currently PIS systems are available on these routes

Longford-Maynooth-Connolly-Bray
Dundalk-Drogheda-Connolly-Bray
Malahide/Howth-Bray/Greystones

Bray Rosslare appears available if service is operated by a 29000 as of Dec 06. Dublin Sligo is still unknown. Kildare Heuston is not available

On train displays and announcements available only on 29000 series units despite 2800 series being fitted also.

No PIS fitted units are allocated commuter to services beyond the Pale
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Unread 17-01-2006, 12:09   #57
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It'd be reasonable to expect this system to be available on IE coaches regardless of wheather beyond the Pale or not.

Are the 2600s and 2700s being retrofitted with the system at some stage?
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Unread 17-01-2006, 19:02   #58
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Default Tuesday 18-1-2006

17:15 Bray Malahide
Rear coach (8322) showing Howth as destination

17:25 Bray Howth
Rear coach showing no destination (8404)

17:25 Howth Bray
Rear coach showing Howth as destination
External displays not working
Announcements working but the classic Next Station <silence> for Sidney Parade

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Unread 18-01-2006, 08:07   #59
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Default Wednesday 18-1-2006

8:05 Greystones Howth
All working until Sidney Parade where we where treated to the classic Next station <silence> (8633)

17:15 Bray Malahide
Rear coach showing Howth as destination

17:45 Bray Howth
Rear coach showing Out of Service

17:25 Howth Bray
All working until Sidney Parade where we where treated to the classic Next station <silence> (8636)

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Default Thursday 19-1-2006

8:05 Greystones Howth
All working until Sidney Parade where we where treated to the classic Next station <silence> (8633)
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