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I'd often thought that the early morning Dublin train should have started in Cobh, so Midleton would be an alternative on that.
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Neither Cobh nor Midleton have platforms sufficient in length to take a full length intercity service, Cobh you might be able get away with but Midleton is a non starter
Don't even start with the union issues it would cause The Midleton timetable is well planned, departures on the xx:45 arrive Cork with a good 20 minutes or so to make the connection into the Dublin bound services at xx:30 If you are serious about getting to Dublin early you would be on the 5:05 or 6:30
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Why dont they make the platforms long enough to handle any train type.
Sick of all this health & safety rubbish lately, shortening of platforms etc. In theory any train type should be able to go anywhere and thats what it should be like in practice |
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Is there any point really?
It makes the construction of stations more expensive and makes it more difficult to site them. There are stations all over the network that will never need to take a CDE or Enterprise. I'm a bit surprised that Cobh can't. It's a pretty substantial station dating back to the time when Cobh was the Dublin Airport of the 19th century (except of course that it had a railway station...). |
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Usually for geographical reasons; there may not be enough room, or the curvature of the line may not be suited to a longer platform. I'm not sure there's much of a point in spending substantial amounts to equip a station to handle a size of train which it's never envisaged will reach it.
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giving people the option to get on a train @ either 06:30 or 07:30 is quite realistic. Alternative, as I said, is the 08:30 with a change @ Mallow = Two changes, not very appealing to anyone!
Don't get me wrong, the timetable is really well planned and offers a good service to the people of East Cork. A connection into either the 06:30 or the 07:30 to Dublin from Midleton/Carrigtwohil would allow people to leave there cars closer to home (or even walk from home) instead of having to drive into the city. Also might get me to work earlier Fin |
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Cobh could handle a Mk3, Mk4 and 6 piece 22k. IE are probably just not interested in extending the Cork enterprise for the reasons Mark gave |
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Its far cheaper send a 2 coach railcar out to Cobh or Midleton, it doesn't have any union, technical or safety problems. As it stands you can get from Cobh to Cork in time for the 6:30 to Dublin, from Midleton the best is the 8:30 which isn't really useful.
There are 3 platform lengths, 90m Cork-Cobh-Midleton + WRC + Ballybrophy (some will take longer) + Limerick - Rosslare 174m all Dublin suburban stations + Sligo line + Rosslare (Rathdrum excepted) 210m all Intercity stations from Heuston Longer platform costs more money and also require greater exit capacity. Midleton line platforms can be extended to 174m length. A Mk4 or Enterprise set is 203m in length
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Will Midleton and Carrigtwohill stations be staffed, I wonder?
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Nope, but they will have TVM's, with the exception of Little Island and Cobh all the Cobh line stations are unstaffed, Cobh isn't staffed after 2pm. Little Island is the only station currently with a TVM.
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will they be staffing Little Island again? I thought they would continue to keep Glounthaune staffed as they will require a signalman there for another while. Finbarr. |
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Little Island was a strange location, bit of a strange staffing issue down there.
I'd say it will be a totally unstaffed operation and few if any checks onboard
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in today's printed version of the Irish Examiner (24.06.2009) the IDA are funding a station at Carrigtwohill West, which is situated in the middle of the Carrigtwohill industrial estate at Kilacloyne
The cost is estimated at 1 million Euro, it is to be a 90m platform + a carpark. Its has the backing of Iarnrod Eireann and is due to be complete by Christmas / early 2010. Could they not have built this while building the line?! Also in the article Barry Kenny said trial trains on the Midleton line would start next week. |
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The proposal for a second station in Midleton was shot down because the extra stop would add too much time onto the journey. Midleton is a substantially bigger town than Carrigtwohill.
Next question, will there be a passing loop in the new station. If so, does this mean they'll pull up the recently laid lines. If not, does it not introduce an unwelcome bottleneck on the single track line? On your map, it looks like it's only about 1200m from the other station in Carrigtwohill. |
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It shouldn't really be a problem, I think the trains will pass at Glounthaune which is roughly half way
It won't require any track changes, yes it should have been done as part of the project. You will probably discover that its been on the table for ages except that Irish Rail said you pay
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Their argument about the existing Carrigtwohill station is that it is about 3 miles from the IDA park/Killacloyne (via road).
With the passing loop at Carrigtwohill and the distance from Glounthaune/Cobh Jctn to Carrigtwohill (~4.5km), I cannot imagine they would put in a passing loop at Carrigtwohill West - otherwise they should have just double tracked the line from Glounthaune to Carrigtwohill. The rough distance of the "proposed" new station is about 3.5km from Glounthaune. |
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Will the new station be equal distance between Carrigtwohill and Glounthaune?
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According to finnyus, it will be 3.5km from Glounthaune and 1km from Carrigtwohill. So I'm guessing not
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does anyone know if there is going to be a change to public transport routes in the East Cork area? At the moment we have the bus commuter routes:
Anyone know if these will serve Midleton station? Or should I just be grateful that we have a train station (and currently no train) from Midleton now |
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