Refurbished enterprise failure

Mickey H · 17-12-2015, 17:10

1650 Belfast currently lying failed at Harmonstown

Dublin13 · 17-12-2015, 17:21

Doors broken apparently, how that happened outside a station I have no idea.

Been stuck on the DART behind it to Malahide for the last 20 minutes at Kilester, driver advised people to take taxis since it could be quite a while.

I was hoping that today would be a rare stress free commute home avoiding the 17:58 DART crush at Clontarf, but alas not!

Dublin13 · 17-12-2015, 17:33

After about a 30 minute delay, Northbound Darts used Southbound platforms at Harmonstown, Raheny, Kilbarrack, before reverting to usual platform at Howth Junction.

Enterprise was still stuck there at the time we went through Harmonstown.

Inniskeen · 17-12-2015, 17:59

Passengers off the Belfast are being turfed out at Harmonstown, train will go empty to Clongriffin. No current arrangements for onward journey.

Developing into a real classic - a real horror story for abandoned passengers ?

Dublin13 · 17-12-2015, 18:15

Looks that way.Apart from the one tweet about the service being stopped about 45 minutes there is no information whatsoever on that Enterprise service, really feel for the passengers.

The NI Railways website mentions no disruption, and even lists the service as running on time. Not even any mention of any issue with DARTS or Commuter service let alone enterprise on IrishRail.ie.

Since it is a refurbished set obviously it causing such chaos would create a lot of unwelcome bad press, so it almost seems that they are trying to avoid drawing too much attention to it.

Dublin13 · 17-12-2015, 18:29

16:50 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central will terminate at Dundalk...This train will no longer call at Newry, Portadown, Lisburn and Belfast Central.

Passengers for Dundalk will use local Irish Rail service. Passengers for cross Border will use 19.00 Dublin to Belfast service (boarding at Dundalk).

Inniskeen · 17-12-2015, 18:53

Really impressive !

Mickey H · 17-12-2015, 20:04

Downright lie from translink it terminated at Harmonstown and left empty for Belfast with a door on 9204 half open. I know for a fact this is the third door fault on 9204 since it came back but the first causing a train failure

Jamie2k9 · 17-12-2015, 20:10

Very random for doors to break en route, could be a serious issue for such a fault to show up on a moving train or something worse....

Mickey H · 17-12-2015, 20:19

I am one of the extatic 1650 passengers who have just left Dundalk 23 late on the 1900 ex Dublin. Thought it would be packed but I am.in.the front car of 22039 with several empty seats ( we were taken from Harmonstown to Dundalk on the 1713 ex Pearse)

Dublin13 · 17-12-2015, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey H

Downright lie from translink it terminated at Harmonstown and left empty for Belfast with a door on 9204 half open. I know for a fact this is the third door fault on 9204 since it came back but the first causing a train failure

The first tweet that Translink made said that the train was delayed as the result of a broken down train, rather than stating it broke down itself, check out the below tweet.

https://twitter.com/nirailways/statu...50616189771776

Every tweet from Translink tonight refers to disruption to the service but does not give a reason why or mention a fault, there is a lot of face saving going on here it seems and very little information.

Irish Rail are happy to talk a lot about disruption to DART and commuter services on their twitter but next to no information on the enterprise disruption tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

Very random for doors to break en route, could be a serious issue for such a fault to show up on a moving train or something worse....

I'm curious what it was, something must have happened en-route, or maybe there were some warning signs before the train left Connolly or on it's previous journey?

However there was a lot of rowing back going on, the driver on our DART clearly said doors the first two announcements, the station announcements first said doors on Enterprise, then operational problem on Enterprise, then just a delay due to a train broken down at Harmonstown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey H

I am one of the extatic 1650 passengers who have just left Dundalk 23 late on the 1900 ex Dublin. Thought it would be packed but I am.in.the front car of 22039 with several empty seats ( we were taken from Harmonstown to Dundalk on the 1713 ex Pearse)

The return working is now showing an unspecified delay.

Mickey H · 17-12-2015, 20:48

It will be around 2135 before 1900 gets to Belfast it is behind 2045 all stops Portadown-GVS

Mickey H · 17-12-2015, 21:14

they have just done something unheard of 2045 looped at Lisburn for us to overtake !!!

Mark Gleeson · 17-12-2015, 21:15

It was the door.

A speed picks up there are some forces on the door, especially passing under bridges or when a train passes the other way.

Why the door could not simply be closed and locked out of service I don't know.

Clongriffin is the easiest place to dump the train, passing loop there is handy

Dublin13 · 18-12-2015, 09:24

Still out of service this morning

Being replaced with a 6 car unit.

How can a train that has just been refurbished have so many problems in the limited time it has been back in service?

It speaks volumes about the quality of the refurbishment.

Mickey H · 18-12-2015, 14:34

On 1405 this afternoon, already 15 late. How far will it get??

Dublin13 · 18-12-2015, 16:43

Arrived into Connolly approx 30 mins late. 16:51

Dublin13 · 18-12-2015, 18:20

16:50 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central due 19:05 This train has been delayed from Dublin Connolly by 12 minutes, will be further delayed at Dundalk and is expected to be 25 minutes late.

Mickey H · 19-12-2015, 16:38

The 1100 ex Dublin this morning was a single C3K not becuase of a train.failure but because Lisburn to Belfast was closed due to signal failure and the southbound train started in Portadown. Serious signal failures on translink are becoming more common, that is the third this week

Inniskeen · 19-12-2015, 19:50

What were the other two ? Was today's self inflicted like Lurgan a few weeks ago.

17-12-2015, 17:10	#1
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	Refurbished enterprise failure 1650 Belfast currently lying failed at Harmonstown __________________ 26271 12-60

17-12-2015, 17:21	#2
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	Doors broken apparently, how that happened outside a station I have no idea. Been stuck on the DART behind it to Malahide for the last 20 minutes at Kilester, driver advised people to take taxis since it could be quite a while. I was hoping that today would be a rare stress free commute home avoiding the 17:58 DART crush at Clontarf, but alas not! Last edited by Dublin13 : 17-12-2015 at 17:56.

17-12-2015, 17:33	#3
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	After about a 30 minute delay, Northbound Darts used Southbound platforms at Harmonstown, Raheny, Kilbarrack, before reverting to usual platform at Howth Junction. Enterprise was still stuck there at the time we went through Harmonstown. Last edited by Dublin13 : 17-12-2015 at 17:59.

17-12-2015, 17:59	#4
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	Passengers off the Belfast are being turfed out at Harmonstown, train will go empty to Clongriffin. No current arrangements for onward journey. Developing into a real classic - a real horror story for abandoned passengers ? Last edited by Inniskeen : 17-12-2015 at 18:05.

17-12-2015, 18:15	#5
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	Looks that way.Apart from the one tweet about the service being stopped about 45 minutes there is no information whatsoever on that Enterprise service, really feel for the passengers. The NI Railways website mentions no disruption, and even lists the service as running on time. Not even any mention of any issue with DARTS or Commuter service let alone enterprise on IrishRail.ie. Since it is a refurbished set obviously it causing such chaos would create a lot of unwelcome bad press, so it almost seems that they are trying to avoid drawing too much attention to it. Last edited by Dublin13 : 17-12-2015 at 18:29.

17-12-2015, 18:29	#6
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	16:50 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central will terminate at Dundalk...This train will no longer call at Newry, Portadown, Lisburn and Belfast Central. Passengers for Dundalk will use local Irish Rail service. Passengers for cross Border will use 19.00 Dublin to Belfast service (boarding at Dundalk).

17-12-2015, 18:53	#7
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	Really impressive !

17-12-2015, 20:04	#8
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	Downright lie from translink it terminated at Harmonstown and left empty for Belfast with a door on 9204 half open. I know for a fact this is the third door fault on 9204 since it came back but the first causing a train failure __________________ 26271 12-60

17-12-2015, 20:10	#9
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Very random for doors to break en route, could be a serious issue for such a fault to show up on a moving train or something worse.... Last edited by Jamie2k9 : 17-12-2015 at 20:13.

17-12-2015, 20:19	#10
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	I am one of the extatic 1650 passengers who have just left Dundalk 23 late on the 1900 ex Dublin. Thought it would be packed but I am.in.the front car of 22039 with several empty seats ( we were taken from Harmonstown to Dundalk on the 1713 ex Pearse) __________________ 26271 12-60 Last edited by Mickey H : 17-12-2015 at 20:31.

17-12-2015, 20:48	#12
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	It will be around 2135 before 1900 gets to Belfast it is behind 2045 all stops Portadown-GVS __________________ 26271 12-60

17-12-2015, 21:14	#13
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	they have just done something unheard of 2045 looped at Lisburn for us to overtake !!! __________________ 26271 12-60

17-12-2015, 21:15	#14
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	It was the door. A speed picks up there are some forces on the door, especially passing under bridges or when a train passes the other way. Why the door could not simply be closed and locked out of service I don't know. Clongriffin is the easiest place to dump the train, passing loop there is handy __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

18-12-2015, 09:24	#15
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	Still out of service this morning Being replaced with a 6 car unit. How can a train that has just been refurbished have so many problems in the limited time it has been back in service? It speaks volumes about the quality of the refurbishment.

18-12-2015, 14:34	#16
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	On 1405 this afternoon, already 15 late. How far will it get?? __________________ 26271 12-60

18-12-2015, 16:43	#17
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	Arrived into Connolly approx 30 mins late. 16:51 Last edited by Dublin13 : 18-12-2015 at 18:19.

18-12-2015, 18:20	#18
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	16:50 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central due 19:05 This train has been delayed from Dublin Connolly by 12 minutes, will be further delayed at Dundalk and is expected to be 25 minutes late.

19-12-2015, 16:38	#19
Mickey H Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279	The 1100 ex Dublin this morning was a single C3K not becuase of a train.failure but because Lisburn to Belfast was closed due to signal failure and the southbound train started in Portadown. Serious signal failures on translink are becoming more common, that is the third this week __________________ 26271 12-60

19-12-2015, 19:50	#20
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	What were the other two ? Was today's self inflicted like Lurgan a few weeks ago.

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