[3/4-11-2007 & 10/11-11-2007] Drumcondra Closed

Mark Gleeson · 25-10-2007, 09:22

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Drumcondra Station - Sunday 4th and 11th November by Corporate Communications

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that due to essential engineering works, Drumcondra Station will be closed on Sunday 4th and Sunday 11th November.

Maynooth-Dublin trains will operate non-stop between Broombridge and Dublin Connolly on these dates.

The 14.55hrs Sligo-Dublin, 15.50hrs Sligo-Dublin, 17.55hrs Sligo-Dublin and 18.45hrs Longford-Dublin will all operate non-stop between Maynooth and Dublin Connolly on these dates.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience caused.

Once again no reason for these so called essential works, is it to fix the lift, is it just the station, it is exit validation or is it the track, will trains be using the Midland line instead? Will this cause Sligo services to depart from plaform 7 instead of 3 and 4

ThomasJ · 25-10-2007, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

will trains be using the Midland line instead? Will this cause Sligo services to depart from plaform 7 instead of 3 and 4

Can eight-carriage trains access the Midland line from platform 7.

Mark Gleeson · 25-10-2007, 09:51

Yes, the only problem which arises is the sidings off platform 7 are only long enough for a 4 coach set

It would be useful if IE provided actual functional information, given a swap from p4 to p7 is significant it would be nice to know if that will be the case

ThomasJ · 25-10-2007, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

, it is exit validation

Can you imagine the fun on matchdays if it was!. It takes 10 minutes to get out of the station (on matchdays) without having to go through that!

Colm Moore · 29-10-2007, 21:16

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Can you imagine the fun on matchdays if it was!. It takes 10 minutes to get out of the station (on matchdays) without having to go through that!

Not really an issue with sports specials, which are mostly long distance trains. Boarding and on-train inspections should be enough.

ThomasJ · 29-10-2007, 21:33

Long distance trains don't serve Drumcondra (except sligo) not even on matchdays only maynooth and Sligo. Half of the time Maynooth line stations aren't even open so tickets have to be bought in Drumcondra!

The exit points at the moment is very restricted only 2 or 3 points and on match days maynooth trains are usually crammed 8 carriage trains. So imagine the holdup that would cause.

ThomasJ · 30-10-2007, 16:42

The website is now saying Drumcondra station will be closed on saturdays the 3rd and 10th of Novemberas well as the sundays. As changable as the weather i tells ya.

Mark Gleeson · 30-10-2007, 16:47

Best guess is there is something afoot at West Rd junction, thats the horribly rocky set of points just before a train from Maynooth gets into Connolly with the two tracks diving under the Northern line for the docks

The points there are for want of a better term *******ed and substandard

ThomasJ · 30-10-2007, 16:48

If thats the case, does this mean that the Midland line will be used instead. Is there anyway of trains getting into connolly not using those tracks?

Colm Moore · 30-10-2007, 17:49

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ

If thats the case, does this mean that the Midland line will be used instead. Is there anyway of trains getting into connolly not using those tracks?

The trains seem to be operating, just not to Drumcondra.

The Liffey line and Newcomen Curve can be used although the Newcomen Curve is tight and steep and only accesses platform 7 (and maybe 6).

constellation · 31-10-2007, 16:48

Taken from http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/

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On 3rd, 4th, 10th and 11th November, Drumcondra Station will be closed. This is due to essential engineering works near Connolly Station.

Maynooth to Dublin trains will operate non-stop between Broombridge and Dublin Connolly, via the Newcomen line (south of Croke Park) on these dates.

The 14.55hrs Sligo to Dublin, 15.50hrs Sligo-Dublin, 17.55hrs Sligo to Dublin and 18.45hrs Longford to Dublin will all operate non-stop between Maynooth and Dublin Connolly on Sunday 4th and 11th November.

ThomasJ · 31-10-2007, 17:33

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Originally Posted by constellation

The 14.55hrs Sligo to Dublin, 15.50hrs Sligo-Dublin, 17.55hrs Sligo to Dublin and 18.45hrs Longford to Dublin will all operate non-stop between Maynooth and Dublin Connolly on Sunday 4th and 11th November.

What about the Saturdays?

Mark Gleeson · 31-10-2007, 17:38

On Sundays the Sligo Dublin services stop in Drumcondra to facilitate students

robdrysdale · 03-11-2007, 12:14

I discovered the reason for Drumcondra closure while passing through Connolly on a Dart this morning.

The 2 westerly tracks are being replaced from Connolly through to the curve onto the Maynooth line. Thus the trains to/from Maynooth/Sligo etc. are running via the Newcommon curve (thus skipping Drumcondra). I saw a Connolly bound train passing over the small liftable bridge over the canal as the Dart was nearing Connolly.

Mystery solved, I think.

Mark Hennessy · 04-11-2007, 10:44

Thought the station was only closed on the sundays and got the 1232 yesterday, "serving all stops" according to the driver announcement then skips Drumcondra, where I was going!

Mark Gleeson · 04-11-2007, 10:54

Coming in from Maynooth yesterday evening, person sitting next to me stood up for Drumcondra as we headed down the Midland line at Des Kellys and wasn't too impressed when I told her it was closed, that we weren't even going to pass Drumcondra and there was not point in getting up

Despite the rain train had no problems crawling up the steep hill into platform 7

The CIS of course insisted on Drumcondra

ThomasJ · 04-11-2007, 16:51

What way did last nights rosslare europort train. Did it run from maynooth running through to platform seven in connolly. Or did it start in connolly. Also how is it working where both inbound and outbound scheduled. Is there any congestion at newcomen.

Mark Gleeson · 04-11-2007, 19:31

All trains ran via the curve

Some minor delays but since there is a 4 minute saving by taking the Midland line they even out

The 8:55 from Sligo was a Mk2 this morning and ran on to Pearse to turnaround

CSL · 04-11-2007, 22:48

Wasn't there something about some consists not being able to make it up that hill at the Newcomen curve ?

Mark Gleeson · 04-11-2007, 22:57

Everything can climb the hill

Railcar design requirements insist on a 10 car railcar being able to drag another dead 10 car up the steepest incline

29k climbs it with ease even in the rain

25-10-2007, 09:51	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Yes, the only problem which arises is the sidings off platform 7 are only long enough for a 4 coach set It would be useful if IE provided actual functional information, given a swap from p4 to p7 is significant it would be nice to know if that will be the case __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

29-10-2007, 21:33	#6
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Long distance trains don't serve Drumcondra (except sligo) not even on matchdays only maynooth and Sligo. Half of the time Maynooth line stations aren't even open so tickets have to be bought in Drumcondra! The exit points at the moment is very restricted only 2 or 3 points and on match days maynooth trains are usually crammed 8 carriage trains. So imagine the holdup that would cause. Last edited by ThomasJ : 29-10-2007 at 21:38.

30-10-2007, 16:42	#7
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	The website is now saying Drumcondra station will be closed on saturdays the 3rd and 10th of Novemberas well as the sundays. As changable as the weather i tells ya. Last edited by ThomasJ : 30-10-2007 at 16:46.

30-10-2007, 16:47	#8
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Best guess is there is something afoot at West Rd junction, thats the horribly rocky set of points just before a train from Maynooth gets into Connolly with the two tracks diving under the Northern line for the docks The points there are for want of a better term *******ed and substandard __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

30-10-2007, 16:48	#9
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	If thats the case, does this mean that the Midland line will be used instead. Is there anyway of trains getting into connolly not using those tracks? Last edited by ThomasJ : 30-10-2007 at 17:05.

31-10-2007, 17:38	#13
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	On Sundays the Sligo Dublin services stop in Drumcondra to facilitate students __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

03-11-2007, 12:14	#14
robdrysdale Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75	I discovered the reason for Drumcondra closure while passing through Connolly on a Dart this morning. The 2 westerly tracks are being replaced from Connolly through to the curve onto the Maynooth line. Thus the trains to/from Maynooth/Sligo etc. are running via the Newcommon curve (thus skipping Drumcondra). I saw a Connolly bound train passing over the small liftable bridge over the canal as the Dart was nearing Connolly. Mystery solved, I think.

04-11-2007, 10:44	#15
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	Thought the station was only closed on the sundays and got the 1232 yesterday, "serving all stops" according to the driver announcement then skips Drumcondra, where I was going!

04-11-2007, 10:54	#16
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Coming in from Maynooth yesterday evening, person sitting next to me stood up for Drumcondra as we headed down the Midland line at Des Kellys and wasn't too impressed when I told her it was closed, that we weren't even going to pass Drumcondra and there was not point in getting up Despite the rain train had no problems crawling up the steep hill into platform 7 The CIS of course insisted on Drumcondra __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 04-11-2007 at 10:59.

04-11-2007, 16:51	#17
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	What way did last nights rosslare europort train. Did it run from maynooth running through to platform seven in connolly. Or did it start in connolly. Also how is it working where both inbound and outbound scheduled. Is there any congestion at newcomen.

04-11-2007, 19:31	#18
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	All trains ran via the curve Some minor delays but since there is a 4 minute saving by taking the Midland line they even out The 8:55 from Sligo was a Mk2 this morning and ran on to Pearse to turnaround __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

04-11-2007, 22:48	#19
CSL Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 378	Wasn't there something about some consists not being able to make it up that hill at the Newcomen curve ?

04-11-2007, 22:57	#20
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Everything can climb the hill Railcar design requirements insist on a 10 car railcar being able to drag another dead 10 car up the steepest incline 29k climbs it with ease even in the rain __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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