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Unread 08-08-2018, 20:09   #1
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Default Why is there still no through ticketing?

The connectivity with the Fishguard sailings is indeed much better since May of last year but through ticketing ex-UK has still not been re-enabled (it was available in 2013).

A perusal of any of the UK-based sites such as National Rail Enquiries or Arriva Trains Wales gives, for instance, an absurd Carmarthen [CMN] to Wexford [WEX] journey of 19 to 21 hours routed via Holyhead! Talk about three sides of a square...

Whereas the journey from Carmarthen to Wexford via Fishguard-Rosslare is available twice a day taking just under 7.5 hrs daytime and just shy of 9 hours overnight.

Similarly one cannot purchase a SailRail ticket at any of the stations between Connolly and Rosslare.

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Unread 08-08-2018, 23:16   #2
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Similarly one cannot purchase a SailRail ticket at any of the stations between Connolly and Rosslare.
I think any manned station in the UK would be able to sell you a Sail Rail Ticket (as well as a ticket to any other station in the UK).

What's stopping for example Dun Laoghaire, Bray etc from issuing Sail Rail tickets or tickets to any other station in Ireland? Technology?
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There is a list of stations which can issue Sail Rails

http://www.irishrail.ie/rail-fares-a...lrail-uk-ferry

Can be purchased online with Irish Ferries or by phone with Irish Rail or Stena line

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The issue is that using the Rosslare-Fishguard route it is impossible to buy a sail/rail ticket using any Irish station other than Rosslare Europort as the origin/destination, despite the connections being restored.

That is the problem - not which stations you can walk in and buy a ticket.
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Unread 09-08-2018, 14:34   #5
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I think any manned station in the UK would be able to sell you a Sail Rail Ticket (as well as a ticket to any other station in the UK).
What's stopping for example Dun Laoghaire, Bray etc from issuing Sail Rail tickets or tickets to any other station in Ireland? Technology?
That’s right Eddie regarding SailRail availability in the UK.

Years ago in the card ticket era one could buy a ticket from any station to any station including the UK yet despite all the investment in machines today
we have a situation where ticket vending machines are restricted to selling to stations on that line only…

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There is a list of stations which can issue Sail Rails
http://www.irishrail.ie/rail-fares-a...lrail-uk-ferry
Can be purchased online with Irish Ferries or by phone with Irish Rail or Stena line
Thanks Mark however that list has remained unchanged for donkey’s years with not a single station retailing SailRail in either County Wicklow or Wexford... Actually O’Hanrahan station did sell them some years ago.
Stena Line only issue from Rosslare/Dublin Port onwards to the UK.

With all due respect Irish Ferries are irrelevant in this context as they don't offer SailRail via Rosslare-Pembroke (that route best caters for those using the Eurolines or Megabus coaches as the rail station is a mile distant from Pembroke Dock ferry terminal).

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The issue is that using the Rosslare-Fishguard route it is impossible to buy a sail/rail ticket using any Irish station other than Rosslare Europort as the origin/destination, despite the connections being restored.
That is the problem - not which stations you can walk in and buy a ticket.
May I ask the source of your information please?

I have personally purchased tickets (at Connolly) for travel from a station on the Dublin-Connolly line to a UK station via Rosslare-Fishguard without any issue.
Indeed the Irish Rail website currently mentions a Wexford – Cardiff ticket…

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Dublin to London €47 each way
Cork to Manchester €61 each way
Galway to Liverpool €61 each way
Limerick to Birmingham €62 each way
Wexford to Cardiff €51 each way
(link above to Irish Rail SailRail page)
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Try doing it online via the arriva trains wales website.
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Irish Rail will issue a ticket for any routing you want, via Rosslare or Dublin

On the UK side its dependent on the train timetable being loaded by the UK operators, this is not something Irish Rail is enforcing, the responsibility is with ATW.
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