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Unread 18-11-2010, 20:19   #1
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why has the digital boards in stations never been up and running, i only see them working in phoenix park on the connolly-maynooth line.

also, (apologies this may have been asked before) why can't they link the connolly to hueston line with the existing track which goes under phoenix park, this would save an underground dart/metro?
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Unread 18-11-2010, 21:16   #2
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The digital board at Phoenix Park (what about dunboyne line?) is only useful if the train is on time. Because the system that tracks DARTs (mini CTC) does not work beyond Drumcondra, there is no way of tracking a Maynooth line train beyond Drumcondra. As a result the Phoenix park board will only show EXPECTED times of arrivals. If a train is late it doesn't show it or if its cancelled will still show it.

Its the same with parts of the Drogheda line, Greystones, and the Heuston-Kildare line. There is a "real time train information" section on the irish rail website http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey/results.asp you can search for Maynooth line stations and it will bring back results for them but beware the results are not LIVE and as a result will probably not be accurate.

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Our central signalling system is subject to ongoing work to support this real-time facility. However real-time information has weaker coverage in certain areas, these include:
• Hazelhatch - Heuston Line
• Athlone - Westport/Ballina Line
• Charleville - Cork/Cobh/Midleton Line
• Mallow - Tralee Line
• Ballybrophy - Limerick Line
• Limerick - Ennis Line
• Athy - Waterford Line
• Limerick Junction Station
• Limerick Junction - Rosslare Line
• Greystones - Rosslare Line
• Drogheda - Belfast Line
Drumcondra - Sligo Line

In these cases your query will return the scheduled time only
I know, its been like this for years, and I am sick and tired of bringing it up, its also brought up alot at clonsilla station why there is no live information at the station, we will be waiting years for this!
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Unread 18-11-2010, 23:04   #3
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The panels will only work once the new signaling goes in. The entire Maynooth line including Dunboyne is controlled from Maynooth so the data isn't available. Clonsilla to Connolly has to be resignalled (it dates from 1976 currently)

The Kildare line now does work west of Cherry Orchard in the online tracker and from Sunday week will work the whole way to Cork when Limerick Junction is automated
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Does it not work on the Cork/Cobh/Midleton Line now seen as the signaling on the 2 lines is only a few months old?
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Cork-Cobh/Midleton is controlled from a panel in Cork station now.

To have the automatic display panels you need automatic routing so the system knows the timetable and can match that with trains moving around.

A plan exists to control the entire network from one building in Dublin, and progressively all routes are being transferred over. They need a bigger building so there is a delay there

Cork (Rathpeacon) - Cherry Orchard, Athlone-Portarlington and Limerick - Limerick Junction curve are controlled from one floor, Dundalk - Greystones, Broombridge - Connolly - Docklands, Enfield - Sligo from another floor

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Cork-Cobh/Midleton is controlled from a panel in Cork station now.

To have the automatic display panels you need automatic routing so the system knows the timetable and can match that with trains moving around.

A plan exists to control the entire network from one building in Dublin, and progressively all routes are being transferred over. They need a bigger building so there is a delay there

Cork (Rathpeacon) - Cherry Orchard, Athlone-Portarlington and Limerick - Limerick Junction curve are controlled from one floor, Dundalk - Greystones, Broombridge - Connolly - Docklands, Enfield - Sligo from another floor
Is the new control building/extension under construction/imminent construction or is it a pipe dream that is definitively not going to see the light of day for at least a decade now that the IMF and friends are in town?
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Cork-Cobh/Midleton is controlled from a panel in Cork station now.

To have the automatic display panels you need automatic routing so the system knows the timetable and can match that with trains moving around.

A plan exists to control the entire network from one building in Dublin, and progressively all routes are being transferred over. They need a bigger building so there is a delay there

Cork (Rathpeacon) - Cherry Orchard, Athlone-Portarlington and Limerick - Limerick Junction curve are controlled from one floor, Dundalk - Greystones, Broombridge - Connolly - Docklands, Enfield - Sligo from another floor
Just out of interest how much is it costing it to manually operate the maynooth line and how much could they save by automating it

And how come they only cover broombridge-Connolly-docklands? Could that not be extended to maynooth?
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