New Timetable - Page 9

ThomasJ · 09-11-2009, 16:20

Looks like based on the online timetable (also heard rumours on it) and probably due to the clockface timetable platforms 6 and 7 at connolly come back into play for the last evening services out of connolly.

DangerM · 09-11-2009, 17:42

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ

For some reason CIE think that all people on the gorey line want is 22ks. For people who work later than 18:30 this is irrelavant. There are a few people on the line I know who dont care! They prefer frequency and timing over train types! Stick a 29k on the line at 21:00hrs.

I couldn't care less on the train type anyway or taking any kind of connector DART if it commenced at Greystones only. If I have to stay in Dublin later than 18:30 (Yes IE, shocker that this happens I know!) I have to get a Bus Eireann bus to Wicklow town and get picked up from there. All at the cost of another ticket and reliant on someone being around to pick me up!

ThomasJ · 09-11-2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by DangerM

I couldn't care less on the train type anyway or taking any kind of connector DART if it commenced at Greystones only. If I have to stay in Dublin later than 18:30 (Yes IE, shocker that this happens I know!) I have to get a Bus Eireann bus to Wicklow town and get picked up from there. All at the cost of another ticket and reliant on someone being around to pick me up!

I remember talking to a manager at IE a year or two ago and when he had mention that off-peak services were less busy. When I mentioned that the likes of the 19:00, 19:30 20:00 and 21:00 even the 21:55 to Maynooth were doing well he pointed out to me that they were peak hour services!

He had pointed out that the lifestyle and work patterns of passengers had changed and they had to change with it. These services are quiet often all seats taken with people standing. You'll notice none of them have been chopped.

I took the 23:10 pearse maynooth 3 times last week and while not packed to the rafters there were very few seats left!

You would have thought that this sort of demand on the Maynooth and Drogheda lines would have incentivised them to try the gorey and mullingar lines.I dont know why management are afraid of taking risks on the gorey and Mullingar lines. They should at least try it out leading up to christmas. they would be suprised.

plant43 · 16-11-2009, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

Presumable that's after the KRP goes live next August?

It may have happened already. Could be just an accident but the 1055 Newbridge - Heuston is a 22k 6-car set this morning.

Kilocharlie · 16-11-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by plant43

It may have happened already. Could be just an accident but the 1055 Newbridge - Heuston is a 22k 6-car set this morning.

More likely a 29K unit failed - it also did the 0835 from Kildare. The new timetable has Platform 1 in Heuston for Newbridge/Kildare services and it can only handle a 3 car ICR.

Thomas Ralph · 16-11-2009, 18:56

Platforms are a movable feast.

plant43 · 17-11-2009, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

More likely a 29K unit failed - it also did the 0835 from Kildare. The new timetable has Platform 1 in Heuston for Newbridge/Kildare services and it can only handle a 3 car ICR.

Today's Kildare commuter services were operated by a 3 car and a 6 car 22k set.

Colm Moore · 17-11-2009, 17:20

DART timetable is up now. http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey/printed_timetable_pdfs/2010/IE%20-%202009-10%20DART%20and%20Com.pdf

shweeney · 25-11-2009, 14:04

IE don't seem to be publicising this new timetable very well - theres a tiny notice on the website, but no posters in the stations (that I've seen).

Some of the changes are quite radical and a lot of people are going to be affected on Monday - they should be running radio ads, posters on trains, the whole shebang...

Mark Gleeson · 25-11-2009, 14:30

There are posters on board the trains.

For such a major change in Dublin the advertising effort is very poor

tigger1962 · 26-11-2009, 15:18

they handed out new timetables in Dundalk this morning.. many more unhappy commuters after they started reading them

paddyb180285 · 27-11-2009, 19:24

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Originally Posted by tigger1962

they handed out new timetables in Dundalk this morning.. many more unhappy commuters after they started reading them

I see that this timetable is valid until further notice. Does this mean that if more trains are needed, the timetable will evolve?

By this I mean, if stations get over crowded will services be added to reflect the demand?

Artur · 27-11-2009, 20:37

I had a strange situation with the new timetables yesterday. Went to Tara St. station to ask for them and I was told that they are not printed any more as part of 'cutbacks' and I should go to the IR website and - if I wanted - print them from there. I thought it was a joke at first but the man was dead serious.

This wouldn't be such a bad idea in the end but you can't print them in the same format yourself - it's a pdf with one 'strip' on each page and the original printout has three (the page is bigger than A4 as well).

Couldn't really believe it so I went to Connolly and - surprise, surprise - got one easily. This time I was told that they're being dispatched at the moment and should be there at every station once they get theirs.

So the first information was completely wrong and potentially damaging to IR reputation: the posters on stations and in trains say that the new timetable 'is available from your local station' so if you go there and learn that this is not true, understandably you are likely to call that crowd 'a bunch of dirty liars' straight away.

Does it mean you can get something from IR only if you're really stubborn and don't believe what their employees tell you? Is this somewhere in their customer charter, I wonder?

Ronald Binge · 27-11-2009, 21:29

This appears to be standard procedure with a lot of IR staff - I've been buying the "book" in its various incarnations since 1979 and in the vast majority of cases ticket office staff have attempted to put me off buying it in some way or another.

Thomas Ralph · 28-11-2009, 09:39

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Originally Posted by paddyb180285

I see that this timetable is valid until further notice. Does this mean that if more trains are needed, the timetable will evolve?

By this I mean, if stations get over crowded will services be added to reflect the demand?

No, it just means that they do not have a definite future planned date for a new timetable to come out.

plant43 · 28-11-2009, 17:35

Wonder will the flooding postpone the introduction of the split Galway-Westport train.

Mark Gleeson · 28-11-2009, 19:53

The spilt service will operate but won't split at Athlone

I am still without a timetable Connolly had them but refused to sell me a copy

Traincustomer · 28-11-2009, 20:46

I'm confused, today after arriving into Heuston (by train) I asked at Customer Services for a timetable book. I was told there wasn't one and was asked what lines I wanted times for. I politely responded for all routes (as I normally buy the timetable book each year). I was told that they didn't have timetables for all routes, and was given a small selection of route timetables.

What a shambles.

In the UK books and leaflets are readily available at stations well in advance of timetable changes (at least that's been my experience to date). The web is fine but doesn't suit all users at all times.

Mark Gleeson · 28-11-2009, 21:30

The national timetable in the UK is done by three private companies currently

There is a book, at least one poster on this forum has obtained a copy. I've seen it but was refused when I wanted to buy it. Staff have their own special timetable book so why on earth are they refusing to sell the public edition

Dun Laoghaire, Blackrock and Tara Street had nothing at all in the way of timetables

wobbles · 29-11-2009, 00:51

An new all route timetable has been printed but from what I am told it is only for staff use and will not be sold to the general public this year.

17-11-2009, 17:20	#168
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	DART timetable is up now. http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey/printed_timetable_pdfs/2010/IE%20-%202009-10%20DART%20and%20Com.pdf __________________

25-11-2009, 14:04	#169
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	new timetable + no publicity = confused public on Monday IE don't seem to be publicising this new timetable very well - theres a tiny notice on the website, but no posters in the stations (that I've seen). Some of the changes are quite radical and a lot of people are going to be affected on Monday - they should be running radio ads, posters on trains, the whole shebang...

25-11-2009, 14:30	#170
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There are posters on board the trains. For such a major change in Dublin the advertising effort is very poor __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

28-11-2009, 19:53	#177
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The spilt service will operate but won't split at Athlone I am still without a timetable Connolly had them but refused to sell me a copy __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

28-11-2009, 20:46	#178
Traincustomer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ar an traein Posts: 600	Book or no book? I'm confused, today after arriving into Heuston (by train) I asked at Customer Services for a timetable book. I was told there wasn't one and was asked what lines I wanted times for. I politely responded for all routes (as I normally buy the timetable book each year). I was told that they didn't have timetables for all routes, and was given a small selection of route timetables. What a shambles. In the UK books and leaflets are readily available at stations well in advance of timetable changes (at least that's been my experience to date). The web is fine but doesn't suit all users at all times.

09-11-2009, 16:20	#161
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Looks like based on the online timetable (also heard rumours on it) and probably due to the clockface timetable platforms 6 and 7 at connolly come back into play for the last evening services out of connolly.

16-11-2009, 18:56	#166
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	Platforms are a movable feast.

26-11-2009, 15:18	#171
tigger1962 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kilcurry Posts: 501	they handed out new timetables in Dundalk this morning.. many more unhappy commuters after they started reading them

27-11-2009, 20:37	#173
Artur Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6	I had a strange situation with the new timetables yesterday. Went to Tara St. station to ask for them and I was told that they are not printed any more as part of 'cutbacks' and I should go to the IR website and - if I wanted - print them from there. I thought it was a joke at first but the man was dead serious. This wouldn't be such a bad idea in the end but you can't print them in the same format yourself - it's a pdf with one 'strip' on each page and the original printout has three (the page is bigger than A4 as well). Couldn't really believe it so I went to Connolly and - surprise, surprise - got one easily. This time I was told that they're being dispatched at the moment and should be there at every station once they get theirs. So the first information was completely wrong and potentially damaging to IR reputation: the posters on stations and in trains say that the new timetable 'is available from your local station' so if you go there and learn that this is not true, understandably you are likely to call that crowd 'a bunch of dirty liars' straight away. Does it mean you can get something from IR only if you're really stubborn and don't believe what their employees tell you? Is this somewhere in their customer charter, I wonder?

27-11-2009, 21:29	#174
Ronald Binge Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 112	This appears to be standard procedure with a lot of IR staff - I've been buying the "book" in its various incarnations since 1979 and in the vast majority of cases ticket office staff have attempted to put me off buying it in some way or another.

28-11-2009, 17:35	#176
plant43 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 278	Wonder will the flooding postpone the introduction of the split Galway-Westport train.

28-11-2009, 21:30	#179
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The national timetable in the UK is done by three private companies currently There is a book, at least one poster on this forum has obtained a copy. I've seen it but was refused when I wanted to buy it. Staff have their own special timetable book so why on earth are they refusing to sell the public edition Dun Laoghaire, Blackrock and Tara Street had nothing at all in the way of timetables __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

29-11-2009, 00:51	#180
wobbles Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 69	An new all route timetable has been printed but from what I am told it is only for staff use and will not be sold to the general public this year.

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