Enterprise fleet refurbishment

[Mickey H]

1235 ex Belfast failed at Newry today due to a door fault, eventually departed 80 minutes late which is the last translink reported on it. There is presumably a 29K on the 1520 which is allegedly on time

[Dublin13]

Again? Not the same unit?

[Jamie2k9]

Was the 06.50 on Friday morning operated by NIR stock?

1235 ex Belfast failed at Newry today due to a door fault, eventually departed 80 minutes late which is the last translink reported on it. There is presumably a 29K on the 1520 which is allegedly on time

Getting really pathetic at this stage, any idea it it was in motion issues or not closing when stooped?

[Inniskeen]

1235 ex Belfast experienced a door fault at Newry (wouldn't close). Passengers transferred to the ICR off the 1320 from Dublin which terminated at Newry. Arrival in Dublin further delayed due to slow moving traffic ahead.

Passengers off the 1320 from Dublin continued on "failed" de-dietrich and arrived in Belfast at 1611. The set departed as the 1605 to Dublin at 1624 and following further delays at Lisburn and between Malahide and Connolly arrived at 1847.

1520 to Belfast and 1805 from Belfast were worked by 8 x 29k.

[Mickey H]

0650/0935 on Friday was a single CAF unit which was then replaced by a DD set for the 1235

[Dublin13]

They really need to sort those doors out, the number of issues they had with them is crazy.

[Inniskeen]

The Friday substitution was pre-planned and as such necessarily an issue with the set.

[Jamie2k9]

So a pre planned alteration and reduced capacity. I am going to suggest the reduced capacity is because NIR are down a set after the recent accident. Did IE operate an additional as well from south or border?

The refurb is so far proving less reliable than before, constant entering and removing from service needs to be sorted. Have we even got a week with two units operating full services?

[Inniskeen]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

So a pre planned alteration and reduced capacity. I am going to suggest the reduced capacity is because NIR are down a set after the recent accident. Did IE operate an additional as well from south or border?

The refurb is so far proving less reliable than before, constant entering and removing from service needs to be sorted. Have we even got a week with two units operating full services?

The second set is not much more than a week in service. The 0755 from Dundalk is still running which means the 0650 from Belfast has some spare seats when operated by a De-Dietrich set.

[James Shields]

The relief train has still been running ahead of the morning Enterprise. I know at least some days last week a DD set was following it. I'm hoping the relief train will continue.

James

[Mark Gleeson]

It is unclear how long this will remain, reliability is poor even the MK4 sets were better out of the box. Realistically there should be 1000 miles on the clock before going into service, the second set had about 100 from what I can see.

Long standing 29k passengers will have noticed the floor is starting to collapse on most units so there will be a need for a major engineering job to replace the floor structure and that means fewer units available

[Jamie2k9]

In the proposed timetable the 07.55 was to continue like now however that was with the Belfast departing at 07.30.

[Inniskeen]

The 0755 was to continue in the new timetable, stopping at Drogheda only, but taking evening longer than the current 69 minutes for a journey which should take at most 55 minutes.

[Mickey H]

DD set must have failed (again) in depot C3K on 0650/0935

[Inniskeen]

Loco issue perhaps as 228 heading north out of Connolly at 0910.

[Mark Gleeson]

York Road is meant to have a spare

And despite what some may say you DONT need the MMI hooked up to operate

[Mickey H]

Knowing York Road they probably broke the spare as well (They had 207 spare when I was last in Belfast on Friday)

[Jamie2k9]

And despite what some may say you DONT need the MMI hooked up to operate

What is the main purpose of the MMI if not critical to operation?

[Mark Gleeson]

Kind of handy to show the driver which door has opened when the train is moving, also shows parking brakes, which toilet is out of order etc.

The Mk4 basically has the same system from the same supplier.

[Eddie]

Had a day trip to Belfast on Friday, heading up on an Irish Rail set on the 7.35am and a refurbished Enterprise on the way back down at 1805.

Have to say, enjoyed the trip, much nicer than driving, even though it did feel like it took longer than it ought to.

For all the talk of slow longer distance trains on the Dart line in Dublin, there was no obvious delay around the Dublin commuter area. The Belfast commuter area was relatively slow from Porterdown to Belfast (apparently there were speed restrictions in place).

Really enjoyed the Enterprise, seems so spacious, and really nicely upholstered, and plenty of room for bags. The only thing missing was the reserved seating which wasn't put up. It was a fairly busy train and we were lucky our seats hadn't already been occupied. A more frequent traveller than me commented to the staff that it hadn't been up for the last 3 weeks. Not sure if it was the fact that we were late running and the software hadn't been downloaded, or it was something else.

Another great feature is that you can use your train ticket to go to the Titanic station and Great Victoria Street, which avoided having to buy any additional local tickets.