Exit validation finally arrives - Page 6

shweeney · 14-11-2006, 15:02

noticed that IE have installed ducting all around the platform entrances in Connolly (ie where the waiting seats in the concourse are now) so looks like a whole load of turnstiles are going in there.

PaulM · 14-11-2006, 15:29

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Originally Posted by shweeney

noticed that IE have installed ducting all around the platform entrances in Connolly (ie where the waiting seats in the concourse are now) so looks like a whole load of turnstiles are going in there.

I suspect they've realised that they need more of them in bigger stations. It would be good if they get the city centre correct.

I noticed in the morning that most people get off at GCD with huge queues every day. I have never been in that station but something needs to be done with it.

Thomas J Stamp · 14-11-2006, 15:33

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I have never been in that station but something needs to be done with it.

Why havent you? You're a disgrace.

Mark Gleeson · 14-11-2006, 15:42

People still fumbling for tickets is a real hold up on the operation you can see it clearly in Lansdowne, the queue getting out has actually reduced since exit validation went in

There always was a queue out of GCD even before the exit validation went in, station was never designed for the numbers it now takes

Tara Street has been set up with at least 15 turnstiles, you will infact be able to exit quicker if arriving from the southside since you will exit via 8 turnstiles at the bottom of the stairs directly to outside avoiding the right and left turn and any passengers heading up to the platform which currently which slows things down

PaulM · 14-11-2006, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

Why havent you? You're a disgrace.

I apologize to the group. I have a confession. There are many train stations I know nothing about. I am not the gricer I profess to be. I apologize.

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Tara Street has been set up with at least 15 turnstiles, you will infact be able to exit quicker if arriving from the southside since you will exit via 8 turnstiles at the bottom of the stairs directly to outside avoiding the right and left turn and any passengers heading up to the platform which currently which slows things down

Now, Tara st. is one that no thought went into. I have difficulty getting to the southbound Platform in the mornings as the people leaving the platform have to walk across the people trying to get to the Platform.

IE, I know this is probably over your heads but if you swap the entry and exit points for the southbound platform, people would flow in and out a lot faster. As they will not be crossing paths anymore.

Thomas J Stamp · 14-11-2006, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Paul Mulcahy

IE, I know this is probably over your heads but if you swap the entry and exit points for the southbound platform, people would flow in and out a lot faster. As they will not be crossing paths anymore.

Typical post from a P11 committee member - telling those saints in IE what to do. Dont you know they sweat blood on your behalf? You're a right arrogant so-and-so.

PaulM · 14-11-2006, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

Typical post from a P11 committee member - telling those saints in IE what to do. Dont you know they sweat blood on your behalf? You're a right arrogant so-and-so.

That makes me a sad panda.

markpb · 20-11-2006, 09:47

Someone in work this morning tried to board a train in Blackrock but found that none of the ticket validators would accept her ticket. They were all set to exit-only until the train arrived and people got off the train. Has anyone heard of that happening before? Seems a little odd when there are 6 of them in that station.

PaulM · 20-11-2006, 10:13

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Originally Posted by markpb

Someone in work this morning tried to board a train in Blackrock but found that none of the ticket validators would accept her ticket. They were all set to exit-only until the train arrived and people got off the train. Has anyone heard of that happening before? Seems a little odd when there are 6 of them in that station.

There are 4 of them in the station and it is a mess. When I was leaving Blackrock this morning they were all open so anyone could walk through. Not sure if it changes at the time of day or what. From What I have seen of IE exit validation, it is a complete mess and they should go back to the drawing board.

PaulM · 23-11-2006, 10:51

I am nearly certain the machine at blackrock kept my ticket today. I put it in, waited a second and the barrier was open so I walked through. Either the machines are slow (and broken) or they are going to start keeping tickets.

If they do keep tickets, thank you IE.

Colm Donoghue · 23-11-2006, 11:13

Tara st online this morning.

stupid system has entering and exiting passengers crossing.

Also wife's ticket doesn't scan any more. guys in ticket office us to either Connolly or Abbey st. to get a replacement.
I thought you could get a replacement in your local station, or even at a stretch the "busiest station in Dublin" but no you can get it is a place not served by trains, or Connolly (allegedly)

PaulM · 23-11-2006, 11:29

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Originally Posted by colmd

Tara st online this morning.

stupid system has entering and exiting passengers crossing.

I meant to mention Tara st. went online.

I posted somewhere how they could alleviate the passenger crossing a bit by swapping where people enter and exit, maybe they'll learn simple route planning one day.

Mark · 23-11-2006, 12:01

Theres always kind of a settling in / trial period in this circumstances. Dont worry about it now but if it persists in a week or so we'll look into it.

Were the new automatic doors at the bottom of the northbound platform operating?

Mark Gleeson · 23-11-2006, 12:11

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Originally Posted by colmd

Also wife's ticket doesn't scan any more. guys in ticket office us to either Connolly or Abbey st. to get a replacement.
I thought you could get a replacement in your local station, or even at a stretch the "busiest station in Dublin" but no you can get it is a place not served by trains, or Connolly (allegedly)

Protocol is that you complete a form with your details you hand that in at your local station you then come back a few days later surrender your ticket and they give you the replacement.

Thats the theory and if it works like that you really can't fault it, I'll see if I can track down the form

andyroo · 23-11-2006, 13:34

(excuse jumping in for my first post, I don't know if there's some protocol whereby you're obliged to introduce yourself or anything)

so, I have a question regarding this exit validation. I use tara street sometimes, thought not on my regular commute. I have an annual bus/rail ticket which is almost a year old and the magnetic strip is worn, it doesn't validate on buses, or on entry validation - so I assume it's not going to work on exit either. is there a gate where you can show your ticket to the bloke in the cap as well as the auto gates?

Mark · 23-11-2006, 15:19

Yeah there's a kiosk in the middle. Itll be slower but no probs as long as you have a valid ticket.

MOH · 23-11-2006, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Paul Mulcahy

There are 4 of them in the station and it is a mess. When I was leaving Blackrock this morning they were all open so anyone could walk through. Not sure if it changes at the time of day or what. From What I have seen of IE exit validation, it is a complete mess and they should go back to the drawing board.

I arrive in Blackrock a bit before 10 every morning (or up to 10 past given the cr*p Dart service the last couple of weeks). Since the exit validation went live, some or all exits have been open more than half the time. I've given up having my ticket ready since I don't need it more often than not.

Any idea how you're supposed to get out if you arrive and your ticket doesn't scan and the guy in the kiosk is off on one of his 'buy your ticket from the vending machine' naps?

PaulM · 23-11-2006, 16:55

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Originally Posted by MOH

I arrive in Blackrock a bit before 10 every morning (or up to 10 past given the cr*p Dart service the last couple of weeks). Since the exit validation went live, some or all exits have been open more than half the time. I've given up having my ticket ready since I don't need it more often than not.

I have the same issue.

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Originally Posted by MOH

Any idea how you're supposed to get out if you arrive and your ticket doesn't scan and the guy in the kiosk is off on one of his 'buy your ticket from the vending machine' naps?

I reckon shout and make a scene or jump the railing. There is no other option.

Colm Donoghue · 24-11-2006, 09:11

They've given up on Tara today.

PaulM · 24-11-2006, 09:22

I used a different machine today in Blackrock and it did not take my ticket....

I didn't use a machine in Tara today though as they were dead. I wonder if you use a single in a new machine twice (entry and exit) does it keep it?

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14-11-2006, 15:02	#101
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	noticed that IE have installed ducting all around the platform entrances in Connolly (ie where the waiting seats in the concourse are now) so looks like a whole load of turnstiles are going in there.

14-11-2006, 15:42	#104
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	People still fumbling for tickets is a real hold up on the operation you can see it clearly in Lansdowne, the queue getting out has actually reduced since exit validation went in There always was a queue out of GCD even before the exit validation went in, station was never designed for the numbers it now takes Tara Street has been set up with at least 15 turnstiles, you will infact be able to exit quicker if arriving from the southside since you will exit via 8 turnstiles at the bottom of the stairs directly to outside avoiding the right and left turn and any passengers heading up to the platform which currently which slows things down

20-11-2006, 09:47	#108
markpb Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 541	Someone in work this morning tried to board a train in Blackrock but found that none of the ticket validators would accept her ticket. They were all set to exit-only until the train arrived and people got off the train. Has anyone heard of that happening before? Seems a little odd when there are 6 of them in that station.

23-11-2006, 10:51	#110
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	I am nearly certain the machine at blackrock kept my ticket today. I put it in, waited a second and the barrier was open so I walked through. Either the machines are slow (and broken) or they are going to start keeping tickets. If they do keep tickets, thank you IE.

23-11-2006, 11:13	#111
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	Tara st online this morning. stupid system has entering and exiting passengers crossing. Also wife's ticket doesn't scan any more. guys in ticket office us to either Connolly or Abbey st. to get a replacement. I thought you could get a replacement in your local station, or even at a stretch the "busiest station in Dublin" but no you can get it is a place not served by trains, or Connolly (allegedly)

23-11-2006, 12:01	#113
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	Theres always kind of a settling in / trial period in this circumstances. Dont worry about it now but if it persists in a week or so we'll look into it. Were the new automatic doors at the bottom of the northbound platform operating?

23-11-2006, 13:34	#115
andyroo New to the board Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malahide Posts: 5	(excuse jumping in for my first post, I don't know if there's some protocol whereby you're obliged to introduce yourself or anything) so, I have a question regarding this exit validation. I use tara street sometimes, thought not on my regular commute. I have an annual bus/rail ticket which is almost a year old and the magnetic strip is worn, it doesn't validate on buses, or on entry validation - so I assume it's not going to work on exit either. is there a gate where you can show your ticket to the bloke in the cap as well as the auto gates?

23-11-2006, 15:19	#116
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	Yeah there's a kiosk in the middle. Itll be slower but no probs as long as you have a valid ticket.

24-11-2006, 09:11	#119
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	They've given up on Tara today.

24-11-2006, 09:22	#120
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	I used a different machine today in Blackrock and it did not take my ticket.... I didn't use a machine in Tara today though as they were dead. I wonder if you use a single in a new machine twice (entry and exit) does it keep it?