P11 News Item. "DART Fiasco" - Page 3

Thomas J Stamp · 24-04-2007, 12:46

Mark thats where the PIS is. The finished set was in Connolly on Sunday doing a test run.

Yes look really nice outside, inside its the exact same, only yellow handrails.

Waste of money if you ask me. I was expecting fireworks.

Colm Donoghue · 24-04-2007, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

Waste of money if you ask me. I was expecting fireworks.

Ah comon, you did get Ronie Drew in platforms..

Mark Gleeson · 24-04-2007, 13:08

Well what we did expect from a passenger point of view

They would fix the motor alternator, thats the electrical noise under the coach while stationary also causes the strip lights to hum. Could have been replaced with modern solid state equivalent, but no IE kept it

They didn't bother to replace the main compressor either which is very noisy and generates a lot of vibration

Thought they might fit the suspension dampers, but no they took out the brackets so the ride won't be better.

Thought they would make it fully accessible, but no they missed that as well

Mark Gleeson · 25-04-2007, 18:44

Well its in service apparently, not sure exactly where

James Shields · 25-04-2007, 19:00

Was parked in new sidings in Fairview around 9:00 this morning. Not visible in Fairview around 6PM his evening.

essoII · 25-04-2007, 21:28

9.05pm, Greystones, the new 8 carriage set pulled in with passengers and seats installed! i didnt know they had entered service already, must have just been from today or the day before.

Mark Gleeson · 25-04-2007, 22:33

It was in service it ran the 17:05 Malahide Bray, 18:25 Bray Howth, 19:45 Howth Greystones and 21:30 Greystones Howth

I was onboard, not impressed

Of course as always Iarnród Éireann made no effort to ask passegers what they wanted

James Shields · 26-04-2007, 06:48

Even DARTs can have a significant height difference.

I would assume that when they started raising platforms (I think around the initial DART build), that they picked a specific height and built all platforms within a reasonable tolerance of that. Perhaps that's assuming a lot!

As far as I know, the suspension systems are supposed bring all trains to a consistent floor height. Clearly it doesn't work very well.

Mark Gleeson · 26-04-2007, 14:27

Its out again today and will run the 16:23 from Greystones to Howth

Mark Gleeson · 26-04-2007, 18:08

Nice photos in the members area

http://forum.platform11.org/showthread.php?t=2395

ThomasJ · 26-04-2007, 18:41

Am on one of the new trains it is heading to howth it is ok. I am not overly happy the doors take forever to close. The trains seem to be wheelchair accessible. But are the poles inside the door not going to make life difficult for a wheelchair user to get on.

ThomasJ · 26-04-2007, 19:14

Sorry that did not come out right. I was just looking at the wheelchair area and i noticed that the poles inside the door are in the layout of two spread out on one side but one only in the centre on the other side. I just thought that the poles were closer to the door and may provide an obstacle for the wheelchair passenger.

hhf8 · 29-04-2007, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

It was in service it ran the 17:05 Malahide Bray, 18:25 Bray Howth, 19:45 Howth Greystones and 21:30 Greystones Howth

I was onboard, not impressed

Of course as always Iarnród Éireann made no effort to ask passegers what they wanted

are they basically the same inside just with new paint?

Mark Gleeson · 29-04-2007, 19:34

Its basically the same but the quality of the finish is not a tap on the original

It feels very much like a patch up job, little care in integrating the new bits the celling looks very strange as does the massive lump for the PIS system (top photo)

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hhf8 · 29-04-2007, 19:37

it looks like a 2600 with the glass panels,from what i can see,does it have less standing room?

24-04-2007, 12:46	#41
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Mark thats where the PIS is. The finished set was in Connolly on Sunday doing a test run. Yes look really nice outside, inside its the exact same, only yellow handrails. Waste of money if you ask me. I was expecting fireworks. __________________ We are the passengers

25-04-2007, 22:33	#47
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	It was in service it ran the 17:05 Malahide Bray, 18:25 Bray Howth, 19:45 Howth Greystones and 21:30 Greystones Howth I was onboard, not impressed Of course as always Iarnród Éireann made no effort to ask passegers what they wanted Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 25-04-2007 at 23:46.

29-04-2007, 19:34	#54
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its basically the same but the quality of the finish is not a tap on the original It feels very much like a patch up job, little care in integrating the new bits the celling looks very strange as does the massive lump for the PIS system (top photo) Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 30-04-2007 at 13:36.

29-04-2007, 19:37	#55
hhf8 Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Balbriggan Posts: 137	it looks like a 2600 with the glass panels,from what i can see,does it have less standing room? __________________ Compute the Commute

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24-04-2007, 13:08	#43
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Well what we did expect from a passenger point of view They would fix the motor alternator, thats the electrical noise under the coach while stationary also causes the strip lights to hum. Could have been replaced with modern solid state equivalent, but no IE kept it They didn't bother to replace the main compressor either which is very noisy and generates a lot of vibration Thought they might fit the suspension dampers, but no they took out the brackets so the ride won't be better. Thought they would make it fully accessible, but no they missed that as well

25-04-2007, 18:44	#44
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Well its in service apparently, not sure exactly where

25-04-2007, 19:00	#45
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Was parked in new sidings in Fairview around 9:00 this morning. Not visible in Fairview around 6PM his evening.

25-04-2007, 21:28	#46
essoII Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Co. Wicklow Posts: 124	9.05pm, Greystones, the new 8 carriage set pulled in with passengers and seats installed! i didnt know they had entered service already, must have just been from today or the day before.

26-04-2007, 06:48	#48
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Even DARTs can have a significant height difference. I would assume that when they started raising platforms (I think around the initial DART build), that they picked a specific height and built all platforms within a reasonable tolerance of that. Perhaps that's assuming a lot! As far as I know, the suspension systems are supposed bring all trains to a consistent floor height. Clearly it doesn't work very well.

26-04-2007, 14:27	#49
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its out again today and will run the 16:23 from Greystones to Howth

26-04-2007, 18:08	#50
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Nice photos in the members area http://forum.platform11.org/showthread.php?t=2395

26-04-2007, 18:41	#51
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Am on one of the new trains it is heading to howth it is ok. I am not overly happy the doors take forever to close. The trains seem to be wheelchair accessible. But are the poles inside the door not going to make life difficult for a wheelchair user to get on.

26-04-2007, 19:14	#52
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Sorry that did not come out right. I was just looking at the wheelchair area and i noticed that the poles inside the door are in the layout of two spread out on one side but one only in the centre on the other side. I just thought that the poles were closer to the door and may provide an obstacle for the wheelchair passenger.