[24.09.08] 06:30 Drogheda Rosslare - A 4 Car set - Page 3

roamling · 27-03-2009, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Paperwork is just a checklist drawn up by the engineers, couple train up test the doors, brakes and other safety systems work and then make a few trips back and forwards between Dundalk and Drogheda late morning early afternoon under the supervision of a senior member of staff

sounds like a plan, as long as there are no other issues besides the paperwork and testing...just in case someone in charge from Irish Rail reading this...get moving

dowlingm · 29-03-2009, 15:34

Apart from embarrassment to IE (a showstopper in most cases), is there anything stopping the PPs from being deployed as a stopgap?

Thomas Ralph · 29-03-2009, 15:40

I seem to remember a discussion saying the locomotive would be liable to go down through the track in parts of the route.

dowlingm · 29-03-2009, 18:23

are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about Northern Commuter - if the loco would go down through there the Enterprise would be in trouble

Thomas Ralph · 29-03-2009, 21:03

The topic was Drogheda-Rosslare, so I assumed that's what you were on about.

Obviously there is no problem with 200-class locomotives on the Northern commuter line

dowlingm · 29-03-2009, 23:13

I see your point - sorry about that

sublimity · 30-03-2009, 10:13

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Originally Posted by dowlingm

Apart from embarrassment to IE (a showstopper in most cases), is there anything stopping the PPs from being deployed as a stopgap?

Hey there's nothing embarrassing about a Mk3 push/pull when you compare it to any of the Commuter DMU's. Just because it has a locomotive pulling it you think its embarrassing?

Thomas Ralph · 30-03-2009, 11:40

I think IÉ would rather consign the Mk3s to history.

sublimity · 30-03-2009, 11:58

They could still come in very handy for some routes. Western Rail Corridor comes to mind. Anyway they are not discarding all of the Mk3 coaches which suggests they believe they do have a future.

Colm Moore · 30-03-2009, 20:16

Aren't locos that much less reliable than DMUs. While sure, the hangar queens are probably scrap by now, but what happens if a loco breaks down at say Donabate .... or Connolly platform 5-7 and you get a matching tail-back?

Are two locos more reliable than one?

dowlingm · 01-04-2009, 00:57

when I said embarrassment I was talking in the context of IE being forced to use carriages they were dying to flog off, not that Mk3s are an embarrassment per se.

sublimity · 01-04-2009, 12:44

Ok no worries

roamling · 03-04-2009, 07:05

Here some updates whats going on on the 6.30 Drohegda - Rosslare:

- this morning the train failed at Connolly. Technical Issue. Train tried to leave but did not move.

- yesterday morning the train (4 car set) terminated in Connolly and was replaced by another 4 car set later

things do not improve at all...

karman · 09-04-2009, 12:33

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Originally Posted by roamling

There is a 8 car set leaving Connolly at around 7.30am towards Maynooth. Its nearly empty all the time. Sure it will get more crowded later but I doubt there is that many people leaving town (in case I am wrong, please let me know). If IR is short of carriages they should at least try to make a fair use of them instead of pulling the joke on certain services all the time.

A lot of the trains out of the city at that hour are mostly empty (the 8:02 to Dundalk from Connolly leaves with a handful of people on it.) I think that train you mention becomes the 8:18 from Maynooth which is my usual train and that gets very busy on the way in to Pearse and has been very uncomfortable when it has been replaced by a 4 or 6 car set in the past.

roamling · 09-04-2009, 14:59

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Originally Posted by karman

I think that train you mention becomes the 8:18 from Maynooth which is my usual train and that gets very busy on the way in to Pearse and has been very uncomfortable when it has been replaced by a 4 or 6 car set in the past.

fair enough, this was just an example. As mentioned it is very uncomfortable when a train is replaced by a shorter train. This is what happens to the 6.30 to Rosslare every week on some days. So this morning I was in a 4 car set train again...

roamling · 28-04-2009, 07:56

for the last weeks the train only has 4 cars for at least 2 out of 5 days on a regular basis now. Today as well, and actually today there seemed to be extra passengers because of the Dublin Bus disruptions...but there seems to be no urgency to respond to that appropriately (not to mention that this train should be 6 cars anyway, Bus strike or not). This just summarizes the current mess of public transport.

roamling · 23-07-2009, 07:26

yesterday the 6.30am Rosslare train failed at Connolly, today the train failed at Laytown and was cancelled. Then the train after the Rosslare train was only 4 cars only which meant that it was full to the rafters in Rush/Lusk. How long do we have to wait until the Rosslare service in the morning will be replaced by a decent, reliable service (new trains)? Anyone..., Bueller?

KSW · 23-07-2009, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by roamling

How long do we have to wait until the Rosslare service in the morning will be replaced by a decent, reliable service (new trains)? Anyone..., Bueller?

I think you meant, How long do we have to wait until Rosslare services get separated from Drogheda & Maynooth services so Iarnrod Eireann can operate 8coach 29k on the morning Drogheda service.Not long

ThomasJ · 23-07-2009, 09:57

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Originally Posted by KSW

I think you meant, How long do we have to wait until Rosslare services get separated from Drogheda & Maynooth services so Iarnrod Eireann can operate 8coach 29k on the morning Drogheda service.Not long

Not quiet AFAIK there is only 1 6-coach set [AFAIK- 1 rosslare set will still be 28k operated] that will be offloaded!

roamling · 23-07-2009, 10:50

anthing that is operated with more than 4 cars and won't break down on the way will do...

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Not quiet AFAIK there is only 1 6-coach set [AFAIK- 1 rosslare set will still be 28k operated] that will be offloaded!

can you specify that? does it mean the morning service will still run all the way to rosslare with a maximum 6 car set?

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Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Aren't locos that much less reliable than DMUs. While sure, the hangar queens are probably scrap by now, but what happens if a loco breaks down at say Donabate .... or Connolly platform 5-7 and you get a matching tail-back? Are two locos more reliable than one? __________________

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29-03-2009, 15:34	#42
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	Apart from embarrassment to IE (a showstopper in most cases), is there anything stopping the PPs from being deployed as a stopgap?

29-03-2009, 15:40	#43
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	I seem to remember a discussion saying the locomotive would be liable to go down through the track in parts of the route.

29-03-2009, 18:23	#44
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about Northern Commuter - if the loco would go down through there the Enterprise would be in trouble

29-03-2009, 21:03	#45
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	The topic was Drogheda-Rosslare, so I assumed that's what you were on about. Obviously there is no problem with 200-class locomotives on the Northern commuter line

29-03-2009, 23:13	#46
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	I see your point - sorry about that

30-03-2009, 11:40	#48
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	I think IÉ would rather consign the Mk3s to history.

30-03-2009, 11:58	#49
sublimity Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 309	They could still come in very handy for some routes. Western Rail Corridor comes to mind. Anyway they are not discarding all of the Mk3 coaches which suggests they believe they do have a future.

01-04-2009, 00:57	#51
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	when I said embarrassment I was talking in the context of IE being forced to use carriages they were dying to flog off, not that Mk3s are an embarrassment per se.

01-04-2009, 12:44	#52
sublimity Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 309	Ok no worries

03-04-2009, 07:05	#53
roamling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lusk Posts: 112	Here some updates whats going on on the 6.30 Drohegda - Rosslare: - this morning the train failed at Connolly. Technical Issue. Train tried to leave but did not move. - yesterday morning the train (4 car set) terminated in Connolly and was replaced by another 4 car set later things do not improve at all...

28-04-2009, 07:56	#56
roamling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lusk Posts: 112	for the last weeks the train only has 4 cars for at least 2 out of 5 days on a regular basis now. Today as well, and actually today there seemed to be extra passengers because of the Dublin Bus disruptions...but there seems to be no urgency to respond to that appropriately (not to mention that this train should be 6 cars anyway, Bus strike or not). This just summarizes the current mess of public transport.

23-07-2009, 07:26	#57
roamling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lusk Posts: 112	yesterday the 6.30am Rosslare train failed at Connolly, today the train failed at Laytown and was cancelled. Then the train after the Rosslare train was only 4 cars only which meant that it was full to the rafters in Rush/Lusk. How long do we have to wait until the Rosslare service in the morning will be replaced by a decent, reliable service (new trains)? Anyone..., Bueller?