Exit validation finally arrives - Page 3

Mark · 14-07-2006, 11:44

I think either Blackrock or Dun laoghaire is next after the cc

Mark Gleeson · 14-07-2006, 15:02

Pearse and Connolly are not on the list to be done at this time

Terrontress · 14-07-2006, 15:30

But that is because they have human ticket checkers there so they do not need the deterrent so urgently as the others.

How long does it take to install and test the checkers?

PaulM · 14-07-2006, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Terrontress

But that is because they have human ticket checkers there so they do not need the deterrent so urgently as the others.

The ticket checkers who let people on to the platform with out validating thier tickets and rarely check people leaving? A mechanical bull would be more effective than them.

sean · 15-07-2006, 03:20

Ticket checker's not much use when he's just sitting there reading the newspaper ...

James Shields · 15-07-2006, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Terrontress

But that is because they have human ticket checkers there so they do not need the deterrent so urgently as the others.

How long does it take to install and test the checkers?

No, that is because unless you install them on the scale of central London tube stations, the build-up of people waiting to leave the station will be so great that the stations will become unsafe. Both stations will require a major redesign to facilitate exit validation.

There are plans on the drawing board for a new enterance lobby on Pearse St, which will presumably be designed with exit validation in mind. Hopefully the Westland Row enterance will remain as a secondary exit and exit validation may then be installed.

Exit validation would be possible in Connolly if the old Suburban station was reopened as this has more room for the barriers. People would then have a choice exits and neither would get overloaded.

Maynooth_Line · 15-07-2006, 20:42

Sorry if its a bit off topic but do you know if there's any chance of the Suburban station at Connolly re-opening? Does anyone know if thats in the pipe-line or even been discussed? I know there use to be a lot of anti-social stuff going on there back when it was open.

Mark Gleeson · 24-08-2006, 15:43

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Originally Posted by Terrontress

Does anyone know when Lansdowne will be up and running by?

Kit arrived yesterday at the main station building, no sign of the secondary exit being fitted

Usual two normal, one large

Mark Gleeson · 06-09-2006, 16:02

There are 4 machines in Lansdowne Rd, the fourth is to the left of the original 2 on the way out

I have tested the machines and it is possible to walk through quickly, as soon as the person infront has removed there ticket insert yours and the gate will stay open

Mark Gleeson · 07-09-2006, 13:56

3 more arrived today on the southbound platform exit, 1 large 2 small as always

al2637 · 20-09-2006, 12:17

Thankfully common sense seems to have prevailed, and they now permanently have one open in Clontarf Road....

Hopefully next step is to remove them totally.

Mark Gleeson · 20-09-2006, 14:26

Lansdowne Rd went live today with a total of 7 turnstiles, 4 on the station side 3 on the new exit side

Mark Gleeson · 25-09-2006, 19:44

Blackrock is next on the list, kit arrived Thursday evening

Principle problem is the fact people don't have there ticket, I witnessed one woman spend the best part of a minute furiously searching through her handbag

Now given you are supposed to have your ticket ready for inspection anyway once again the human element fails

MrX · 26-09-2006, 08:00

People will get used to that requirement rather quickly once it's introduced widely.

IE do need a little presence on the platform at peak hours though if they plan to push people through the barriers as quickly as possible. Even small L.U. stations will have someone manning the gate at peak times to prevent someone with a jammed ticket causing chaos!

Then again, you wouldn't dare block an L.U. gate at rush hour, you'd be eaten alive / trampled to death!

Terrontress · 05-10-2006, 10:48

To be honest, I think that the introduction of the ticket barriers in Lansdowne has been useless on the southbound platform anyway.

Due to the numbers of people trying to get out and the delays it causes, I have taken to just walking through the barrier behind the person in front.

The consequence? A comedy train doot doot sound.

I have a ticket to be inspected by anyone who wants to but nobody has challenged me.

luasifer · 07-10-2006, 01:50

well aren't you great. The design of these barriers means it is quite feasible for you to be able to put your ticket in the machine and walk through without the gate ever closing from the person in front of you

Thomas J Stamp · 09-10-2006, 09:55

Quote:

well aren't you great.

No need for that, ok?

Mark Gleeson · 09-10-2006, 11:54

Principle problem at Lansdowne is human and the need to burrow into the wallet etc to find the ticket, otherwise it works just fine and it is possible to walk through at a reasonable pace, faster than before in fact since the barrier will stay open

Mark Gleeson · 10-10-2006, 18:28

Blackrock is next, there will be 4 barriers

4 are accessible from the waiting room side door (the far end one next to the ramp to the bridge), only 2 are accessible from the second door

Tara Street northbound is next on the list, if they place a line of 6 or 7 turnstilies in the vacant area at the bottom of the stairs it should go down very well and speed up exit

Time and time again its people not having there ticket ready which is holding up the system

James Shields · 11-10-2006, 20:38

Posters up in Tara St saying "Automatic ticket checking on exit coming soon to this station."

05-10-2006, 10:48	#55
Terrontress Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 132	Lansdowne Ticket Checks To be honest, I think that the introduction of the ticket barriers in Lansdowne has been useless on the southbound platform anyway. Due to the numbers of people trying to get out and the delays it causes, I have taken to just walking through the barrier behind the person in front. The consequence? A comedy train doot doot sound. I have a ticket to be inspected by anyone who wants to but nobody has challenged me.

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14-07-2006, 11:44	#41
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	I think either Blackrock or Dun laoghaire is next after the cc

14-07-2006, 15:02	#42
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Pearse and Connolly are not on the list to be done at this time

14-07-2006, 15:30	#43
Terrontress Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 132	But that is because they have human ticket checkers there so they do not need the deterrent so urgently as the others. How long does it take to install and test the checkers?

15-07-2006, 03:20	#45
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	Ticket checker's not much use when he's just sitting there reading the newspaper ...

15-07-2006, 20:42	#47
Maynooth_Line Regular Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 54	Sorry if its a bit off topic but do you know if there's any chance of the Suburban station at Connolly re-opening? Does anyone know if thats in the pipe-line or even been discussed? I know there use to be a lot of anti-social stuff going on there back when it was open.

06-09-2006, 16:02	#49
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There are 4 machines in Lansdowne Rd, the fourth is to the left of the original 2 on the way out I have tested the machines and it is possible to walk through quickly, as soon as the person infront has removed there ticket insert yours and the gate will stay open

07-09-2006, 13:56	#50
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	3 more arrived today on the southbound platform exit, 1 large 2 small as always

20-09-2006, 12:17	#51
al2637 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	Thankfully common sense seems to have prevailed, and they now permanently have one open in Clontarf Road.... Hopefully next step is to remove them totally.

20-09-2006, 14:26	#52
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Lansdowne Rd went live today with a total of 7 turnstiles, 4 on the station side 3 on the new exit side

25-09-2006, 19:44	#53
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Blackrock is next on the list, kit arrived Thursday evening Principle problem is the fact people don't have there ticket, I witnessed one woman spend the best part of a minute furiously searching through her handbag Now given you are supposed to have your ticket ready for inspection anyway once again the human element fails

26-09-2006, 08:00	#54
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	People will get used to that requirement rather quickly once it's introduced widely. IE do need a little presence on the platform at peak hours though if they plan to push people through the barriers as quickly as possible. Even small L.U. stations will have someone manning the gate at peak times to prevent someone with a jammed ticket causing chaos! Then again, you wouldn't dare block an L.U. gate at rush hour, you'd be eaten alive / trampled to death!

07-10-2006, 01:50	#56
luasifer Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 37	well aren't you great. The design of these barriers means it is quite feasible for you to be able to put your ticket in the machine and walk through without the gate ever closing from the person in front of you

09-10-2006, 11:54	#58
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Principle problem at Lansdowne is human and the need to burrow into the wallet etc to find the ticket, otherwise it works just fine and it is possible to walk through at a reasonable pace, faster than before in fact since the barrier will stay open

10-10-2006, 18:28	#59
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Blackrock is next, there will be 4 barriers 4 are accessible from the waiting room side door (the far end one next to the ramp to the bridge), only 2 are accessible from the second door Tara Street northbound is next on the list, if they place a line of 6 or 7 turnstilies in the vacant area at the bottom of the stairs it should go down very well and speed up exit Time and time again its people not having there ticket ready which is holding up the system

11-10-2006, 20:38	#60
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Posters up in Tara St saying "Automatic ticket checking on exit coming soon to this station."