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![]() http://83.138.170.50/podcasts/audio/...safety%201.mp3
Thanks for that Mark. 2 Interesting points in the interview. Overcrowding to this extend is acceptable with high frequency, so a passenger can just wait for the next service. However, there is a 40 minute gap in the morning rush hour on the Drogheda line. So there goes that argument. Passengers can vote with their feet if they are not happy. Again, not a realistic option. The Dublin Bus from Balbriggan via Skerries, Rush, Lusk etc. can take 1-1.5 hours in the morning peak. Hardly an option. Also, would the DTO recommend passengers use their cars if they are unhappy? Anyway, good to see Newstalk are going to follow up on this one. |
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![]() Rather disappointed the RSC chief inspector attitude to the problem.
People are regularly standing on intercity trains particularly into Heuston, thats not on. All very much a case of Irish Rail said it was ok, so its ok. Sadly it will take a nasty incident before someone listens up. The UK had a incident with a rush hour train in 1991 at 5-10mph, 1 dead, 265 injured, ok it was a ancient train but repeat same for a modern train at 30mph result would be nasty At least in the UK they are getting down to hard data http://www.publications.parliament.u.../201/20107.htm
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![]() I get the 17.50 from Dun Laoghaire to Mullingar most evenings and on the new timetable it gets into Mullingar at 19.50 and on the old timetable it use to get in at 19.40 but it still leaves Dun Laoghaire at the same time and stops at the sames stops, which is strange.
It sits outside Enfield waiting on the oncoming Sligo train to pass but the delay is getting worse, as last night the train did not get into Mullingar last night till after 8.00pm. Will resolve over the next few weeks, does anyone know? All those who want this service removed, shame on you, as there is quite a few that do get off in Mullingar and there is a few like me that travel out to Dun Laoghaire |
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![]() It took several tragic needless deaths on school buses before the Government did anything about safety there and I'm afraid it looks like it will be the same with the trains.
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![]() I know there is two chances of this being still around but does anyone know where i could get the podcast of Tuesdays piece on the Phoenix Park station and the overcrowding issue on newstalk 106
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![]() Last night the 18:05 stopped in siding at Killucan at 19:08, an announcement was made that we would be held up for a few minutes due to late running of Sligo - Dublin train. Ended up moving on at 19:22 arriving in Mullingar at 19:30 some 16 minutes late.
As if our day isnt long enough already! They hardly made up 16 minutes by the time it got to Longford so I wonder does that affect their punctuality stats?
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![]() Might be worth a read
From Westmeath Examiner 19/01/2008 http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/stor...&cid=181&cid2= Quote:
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![]() Yes I seen that when it was published. By the way has any one actually had 'contact' with this mysterious Mullingar Commuter Group - I've been on the train about 4 years now and have never seen a survey or been approached to join or anything. Is there a secret handshake / password that you have to know or is it those 4 or 5 lads doling out the beer most nights in the front carriage on the 18:05? Mmmmm I wonder......
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![]() I found this website when I was looking for a place to complain to Irish Rail and also to see how other commuters were dealing with the hassles of commuting. I have just got a reply from IE with reagrd to my initial complaint about the unacceptable overcrowding on Jan 21st.
"Thank you for your email of 22nd January regarding your journey on the 18.05 hrs. service from Connolly on 21st January, 2008. Due to faults on two railcar sets on the day in question, services to Maynooth and Longford ran as smaller trains than normal, causing a spill over to the 18.05 hrs. train resulting in heavy loadings on this train also. I would like to apologise for the discomfort that this caused. As with commuter railways throughout Europe, passengers may not be guaranteed a seat for the whole journey at peak times. I would like to assure you that we are making full use of our available carriage fleet to maximise the number of services operated. We have also increased the frequency of service on the Sligo route and these services will serve Mullingar station."
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Don't think there's any formal "group" though.
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![]() I see, I was just wondering as they have often been quoted in local press. The mystery lives on the phantom 'Mullingar Commuter Group'.
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![]() I know someone who 'set up' his own group when he was unhappy with the way some other group he belonged to was operating.
He was quoted in the papers regularly as something along the lines of "North Dublin Concerned Citizens Against Animal Cruelty" despite the fact he was the only person in the organisation. You may well find that the Mullingar Commuter Group operates on a similar basis. z |
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![]() You might be right, maybe the next quote in the newspapers will be from the 'Continuity Mullingar Commuter Group'
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![]() Just like to confirm that according to the internal Irish Rail timetable the 18:05 service is rostered to be 4 coaches in length only
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![]() I think the real root question here should be: why are you commuting from Mullingar to Dublin?
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![]() ![]() And partly because at one stage it looked like my job might relocate out that direction but it didnt happen. ![]()
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the fact is that the planning of this country over the past 17 years has left people with no option but ot do this. While we do occcasionally will advise people not to move out to Nass/Salins/Mullingar just to commute we do this because we know it'll be hell and the impending movee dosnt. Having a pop at someone for living there is beyond the bounds of decency to me, and you're lucky i havent gotten round to creating a new infraction offence for being a dick. |
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I don't buy into this "no choice" thing. There is always a choice about where you can live as far as I'm concerned. My post wasn't meant as an attack on the OP and I don't think he took it as such, so why you did is beyond me. |
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![]() In other forums the question would be reasonable, sadly here this is the forum for victims of the poor planning in this state.
I had the very strange experience of talking to a transport planner about this very issue and purely on the numbers 30+ miles is not a runner, plain inefficient use of resources. This person lived 41 miles out ![]() Can't recommend anyone commuting by rail beyond the Dublin suburban boundary (Maynooth/Greystones/Balbriggan/Hazelhatch). We do our best if you are stuck already. The government has put a large number of people in limbo with decentralisation, people have moved outwards on the promise (or contractual requirement) of the office moving to a certain town, hasn't happened.
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