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Oisin88 · 25-09-2006, 17:49

PIS said: Next station: Limerick Junction zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz

I'm not messing

Mark Gleeson · 26-09-2006, 11:22

8:05 Greystones Howth (8608)
No PIS, No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405)

Maynooth_Line · 26-09-2006, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maynooth_Line

07:22 Maynooth - Dublin Connolly

The PIS has a habit of saying "This train is for Dublin Connolly calling at ....... Drumcondra, Dublin Connolly, Tara Street and Dublin Pearse."

The train only goes to Connolly. 29302 is one of the carriages usually on the service.

Its still happening, except some days it actually announces "This train is for Dublin Pearse calling at ....... Drumcondra, Dublin Connolly, Tara Street and Dublin Pearse."

The scrolling display is correct and only lists as far as Connolly.

Mark Gleeson · 27-09-2006, 08:11

8:05 Greystones Howth (8608)
PIS very confused it got stuck with Next Station Killiney, then Next Station Booterstown then it went dead
No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405)

17:25 Howth Bray
No PIS, No Maps
Rear coach showing Howth as destination

17:15 Bray Malahide
Rear coach showing Bray as destination

Colm Donoghue · 27-09-2006, 08:17

29429 has no maps over the 4 doors. neither yesterday or today.

Mark Gleeson · 28-09-2006, 08:02

8:05 Greystones Howth (8608)
PIS scrolled Next Station <blank> Destination <blank>
No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405)

18:55 Malahide Bray
Showing Malahide as destination on rear

19:05 Howth Greystones
Showing Howth as destination on rear

19:16 Malahide Bray
No PIS, No PA and No Maps

Colm Donoghue · 28-09-2006, 10:21

last night, 27 Sept, got dart to Connolly to catch the 23:20 to Drogheda.
waiting around on Platform4 the train was dark and we were all locked out.
at 17 minutes past some guy in a high viz jacket comes shouting saying the other platform and pointed ( well waved his arm) towards the dart platforms.
Other people down the platform were moving back towards the station and to platform3. I reckoned this was the way to go but the wife was sure we should go to the dart platform.
went down to P3 anyway but checked the main board in the main station. still said train was due to go from P4

We got on the train on P3 anyway. No pis no announcement before leaving, No train destination on the back of the train no display lit outside the door.

Mark Gleeson · 29-09-2006, 08:04

8:10 Bray Howth
Showing Bray as destination on rear

turnapin · 02-10-2006, 08:33

29/09/06

15:55 Connolly-Sligo Mk2d

Train stops at Drumcondra.
Platform information shows all stations to Sligo, except Clonsilla.
Next stop was Maynooth.

Mark Gleeson · 02-10-2006, 08:44

Starting from July 21st the 15:55 called at Drumcondra no idea why but the platform display should be able to handle that

It should say non stop to Maynooth then all stations to Sligo, the legal position on this is it is your responsibility to ensure you are on the right train, now given IE have given clear and unambiguous notice (incorrectly of course) of the stations called at you could have some serious fun since you have taken reasonable precautions its not as if you are standing on the wrong platform

Problem is will you meet a like minded judge? As I keep saying IE have a great get out of jail card since they have adopted the UK accessibilty rules but they are not enforceable. Maximum penalty in the UK is 10% of turnover of the business unit where they persist with knowingly displaying incorrect information

turnapin · 02-10-2006, 14:17

I've a feeling the Drumcondra stop might be for DCU students to get home for the weekend, as quite a few seem to make use of it.

I hadn't noticed the platform information before, but I'll keep an eye out over the next few weeks. A fair few people thought about getting on, but then backed away. The next Maynooth service was 20+ minutes behind.

James Shields · 07-10-2006, 11:30

IE have gone 90% of the way, with excellent on-board information systems, but if they don't use it correctly all the time, we can't really be sure it's right any of the time. It's alright if you get the same train every day, but it's the times you get a train you're not sure about that it really throws you.

shweeney · 09-10-2006, 15:13

saw a Dart the other day - Malahide bound according to the platform display, but the scroll said Howth. Where was it really going - who knows? Sorry for the non-specifics.

The 1737 Lansdowne-Gorey regularly arrives in lansdowne displaying "Maynooth" on the front. Often the 1732 Lansdowne-Maynooth is still in the station at the same time, so 2 trains, both displaying Maynooth, heading in opposite directions... great.

Mark Gleeson · 17-10-2006, 08:46

21:59 Bray Howth
PIS went mad and started to scroll everything backwards as in "htwoH rof si niart sihT"

This only happens between Sydney Parade and Sandymount going north. IE are well aware of it but have not taken any action

PA said nothing until Pearse

Mark Hennessy · 18-10-2006, 07:53

The 2230 Pearse Maynooth had no internal or external PIS but credit to the driver he made clear audible announcemnents at every stop.

Mark Gleeson · 18-10-2006, 13:57

13:45 Bray Howth
No displays working in the second coach 8602
Showing Bray as destination on rear
Claimed to have CCTV while it doesn't
Volume of PA awfully low

markpb · 25-10-2006, 11:03

8.38 ex howth junction to Malahide. Back carriage was 8640, my carriage was 8540.

Internal display said its to Howth, next station was Shankill the entire way. The volume dropped on the announcements just before the stop name so they couldn't be heard. The route map showed Bray as the next stop for the entire journey. Side displays were out on my carriage.

Front and back were correct. The terminating station announcement was correct but it also played the 'change here for outer suburban connections', not sure if its meant to do that?

Mark Gleeson · 27-10-2006, 14:03

14:32 Howth Bray
Showing Howth as destination on rear coach

Mark Gleeson · 29-10-2006, 20:25

15:30 Malahide Greystones
No destination on front coach
End display in lead of coaches 8401 and 8201 broken
Inner end display displayed Out of Service/As Serbhis for the journey
No PA

Mark Gleeson · 29-10-2006, 20:28

16:10 Pearse Longford
Rear destination display showed Pearse

19:30 Bray Howth
No displays working in lead coach 8604
PA worked but still used the old chime style PA
Rear destination display showed Bray

25-09-2006, 17:49	#261
Oisin88 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 608	22-9-2006 19:00 Dublin-Cork PIS said: Next station: Limerick Junction zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz I'm not messing Last edited by Oisin88 : 26-09-2006 at 21:03. Reason: Train time wrong

26-09-2006, 11:22	#262
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	26-9-2006 8:05 Greystones Howth (8608) No PIS, No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405)

27-09-2006, 08:11	#264
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	27-9-2006 8:05 Greystones Howth (8608) PIS very confused it got stuck with Next Station Killiney, then Next Station Booterstown then it went dead No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405) 17:25 Howth Bray No PIS, No Maps Rear coach showing Howth as destination 17:15 Bray Malahide Rear coach showing Bray as destination Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 28-09-2006 at 08:03.

28-09-2006, 08:02	#266
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	28-9-2006 8:05 Greystones Howth (8608) PIS scrolled Next Station <blank> Destination <blank> No PA, no destination shown on the rear coach (8405) 18:55 Malahide Bray Showing Malahide as destination on rear 19:05 Howth Greystones Showing Howth as destination on rear 19:16 Malahide Bray No PIS, No PA and No Maps Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 29-09-2006 at 08:04.

29-09-2006, 08:04	#268
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	29-9-2006 8:10 Bray Howth Showing Bray as destination on rear

27-09-2006, 08:17	#265
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	29429 has no maps over the 4 doors. neither yesterday or today.

28-09-2006, 10:21	#267
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	last night, 27 Sept, got dart to Connolly to catch the 23:20 to Drogheda. waiting around on Platform4 the train was dark and we were all locked out. at 17 minutes past some guy in a high viz jacket comes shouting saying the other platform and pointed ( well waved his arm) towards the dart platforms. Other people down the platform were moving back towards the station and to platform3. I reckoned this was the way to go but the wife was sure we should go to the dart platform. went down to P3 anyway but checked the main board in the main station. still said train was due to go from P4 We got on the train on P3 anyway. No pis no announcement before leaving, No train destination on the back of the train no display lit outside the door.

02-10-2006, 08:33	#269
turnapin Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 46	29/09/06 15:55 Connolly-Sligo Mk2d Train stops at Drumcondra. Platform information shows all stations to Sligo, except Clonsilla. Next stop was Maynooth.

02-10-2006, 08:44	#270
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Starting from July 21st the 15:55 called at Drumcondra no idea why but the platform display should be able to handle that It should say non stop to Maynooth then all stations to Sligo, the legal position on this is it is your responsibility to ensure you are on the right train, now given IE have given clear and unambiguous notice (incorrectly of course) of the stations called at you could have some serious fun since you have taken reasonable precautions its not as if you are standing on the wrong platform Problem is will you meet a like minded judge? As I keep saying IE have a great get out of jail card since they have adopted the UK accessibilty rules but they are not enforceable. Maximum penalty in the UK is 10% of turnover of the business unit where they persist with knowingly displaying incorrect information

02-10-2006, 14:17	#271
turnapin Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 46	I've a feeling the Drumcondra stop might be for DCU students to get home for the weekend, as quite a few seem to make use of it. I hadn't noticed the platform information before, but I'll keep an eye out over the next few weeks. A fair few people thought about getting on, but then backed away. The next Maynooth service was 20+ minutes behind.

07-10-2006, 11:30	#272
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	IE have gone 90% of the way, with excellent on-board information systems, but if they don't use it correctly all the time, we can't really be sure it's right any of the time. It's alright if you get the same train every day, but it's the times you get a train you're not sure about that it really throws you.

09-10-2006, 15:13	#273
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	saw a Dart the other day - Malahide bound according to the platform display, but the scroll said Howth. Where was it really going - who knows? Sorry for the non-specifics. The 1737 Lansdowne-Gorey regularly arrives in lansdowne displaying "Maynooth" on the front. Often the 1732 Lansdowne-Maynooth is still in the station at the same time, so 2 trains, both displaying Maynooth, heading in opposite directions... great.

17-10-2006, 08:46	#274
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	17-10-2006 21:59 Bray Howth PIS went mad and started to scroll everything backwards as in "htwoH rof si niart sihT" This only happens between Sydney Parade and Sandymount going north. IE are well aware of it but have not taken any action PA said nothing until Pearse Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 17-10-2006 at 08:49.

18-10-2006, 07:53	#275
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	17-10-06 The 2230 Pearse Maynooth had no internal or external PIS but credit to the driver he made clear audible announcemnents at every stop.

18-10-2006, 13:57	#276
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	18-10-2006 13:45 Bray Howth No displays working in the second coach 8602 Showing Bray as destination on rear Claimed to have CCTV while it doesn't Volume of PA awfully low

25-10-2006, 11:03	#277
markpb Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 541	8.38 ex howth junction to Malahide. Back carriage was 8640, my carriage was 8540. Internal display said its to Howth, next station was Shankill the entire way. The volume dropped on the announcements just before the stop name so they couldn't be heard. The route map showed Bray as the next stop for the entire journey. Side displays were out on my carriage. Front and back were correct. The terminating station announcement was correct but it also played the 'change here for outer suburban connections', not sure if its meant to do that?

27-10-2006, 14:03	#278
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	27-10-2006 14:32 Howth Bray Showing Howth as destination on rear coach

29-10-2006, 20:25	#279
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	28-10-2006 15:30 Malahide Greystones No destination on front coach End display in lead of coaches 8401 and 8201 broken Inner end display displayed Out of Service/As Serbhis for the journey No PA

29-10-2006, 20:28	#280
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	29-10-2006 16:10 Pearse Longford Rear destination display showed Pearse 19:30 Bray Howth No displays working in lead coach 8604 PA worked but still used the old chime style PA Rear destination display showed Bray

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