The Leap Card Thread

[Eddie]

Originally Posted by Traincustomer

In my view the Leap Card section of the NTA could and should have refunded this money to you as a once off goodwill gesture while drawing attention to the 30 day policy.

It looks like they are going to do exactly that.

[Eddie]

Inconsistent applications of the Leap 90 discount could do with ironing out. Discount is available if travelling between any of Dublin Bus / Luas / Dart to any different mode, and also from Dublin Bus to Dublin Bus.

It's not available when taking a second Luas or second Dart journey within 90 minutes.

I'll bet most regular travellers who have heard of the Leap 90 discount wouldn't know that such exclusions would apply from the posters and try explaining the logic of it to tourists.

[berneyarms]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Inconsistent applications of the Leap 90 discount could do with ironing out. Discount is available if travelling between any of Dublin Bus / Luas / Dart to any different mode, and also from Dublin Bus to Dublin Bus.

It's not available when taking a second Luas or second Dart journey within 90 minutes.

I'll bet most regular travellers who have heard of the Leap 90 discount wouldn't know that such exclusions would apply from the posters and try explaining the logic of it to tourists.

The exclusions on Irish Rail to Irish Rail and LUAS to LUAS journeys apply because there are already fares set for every station pairing.

For example if you take a DART from Howth to Connolly and then a suburban train to Ashtown. There is already a discounted fare set for Howth to Ashtown.

LUAS has zonal fares which cover a trip from Brides Glen to Saggart and Irish Rail a fares matrix which covers every station pairing.

[Mark Gleeson]

The problem is I can do Dun Laoghaire Blackrock, get out, then Blackrock Pearse, it will be charged as two journeys with no discount. If I did same with bus I would get a discount

More realistic example is Clondalkin - Heuston - Connolly - Howth

Leap treats Clondalkin Heuston and Connolly Howth as two distinct trips with no discount, but the Luas will show a discount. Brave man to try not tagging out in Heuston and not tagging on in Connolly to see what happens.

In theory as you go Irish Rail - Luas and then Luas - Irish Rail it should give you a discount on Connolly Howth but I wouldn't bet on it

Cash
4.70 + 1.80 = 6.50

Leap
2.41 + 1.44 + 2.41
Less 2 euro
4.26

But if I walk Heuston - Connolly I would not get the 90 discount
4.82

Leap without tagging off/on HN/CY (as there is a legal fare code within Irish Rail, impossible but need to compare with old through ticketing option)
3.49 +1.44
Less 1 euro
3.93

Fare via Phoenix Park Tunnel
3.49


Anywhere else in the world this would be considered a single journey of X zones regardless of changes made

[bg07]

Has leap epurse been turned on in Cork yet for a soft launch yet?

They're really taking their time launching it.

[Mark Gleeson]

Not available for public yet

Apparently there are unresolved issues

[bg07]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Not available for public yet

Apparently there are unresolved issues

Any update on the cork leap epurse launch?

[Mark Gleeson]

We do not have a date yet, spring 2016 ?

[Mark Gleeson]

If you are feeling lucky try to a trip in Cork today

Not sure if the TVM's will allow top up's but you should be able to tag on/off.

That said it is not formally live so your mileage may vary and pay for your ticket if you cannot tag on

[Jamie2k9]

Strangely enough I was in Cork yesterday and overhead the end of a conversation between a staff member and passenger. They said it would be soon but he mentioned they had to meet with the NTA again. Not sure if he actually knew anything or was just trying to give the customer an answer.

Why are IE dragging their heels about it, am I right in saying they will lose a lot of revenue because of it or have they been offset by recent fare changes.

[Mark Gleeson]

I suggest the customer just try it...

All TVM's in Cork will now allow Leap top. Leap card can be purchased from some of the TVM's in Cobh, Midleton and Cork.

[Jamie2k9]

Notice IE have said on twitter it's live since 16th, think they would bother putting something on website about it....

[comcor]

It took Bus Eireann 3 months to publicise it after it was turned on in Cork, so it's no huge surprise. They probably want a soft launch with any issues contained to a small number of people.

[Mark Gleeson]

It is a soft launch a formal announcement is due in early December

[jacko]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

It is a soft launch a formal announcement is due in early December

The reason for the lack of publicity is that until the cash fare increase takes effect next week the leap return fare is more expensive!

Cork/Cobh is 8.50 cash return.

Leap is 4.65 each way

[Mark Gleeson]

Is actually 9.20 return on Leap as there is a 9.20 day cap on Irish Rail Leap fares in Cork

4.65 is the NTA approved fare

[jacko]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Is actually 9.20 return on Leap as there is a 9.20 day cap on Irish Rail Leap fares in Cork

4.65 is the NTA approved fare

Hardly a great marketing ploy to induce cork rail commuters to migrate to Leap

[Mark Gleeson]

Cash single fare will be 6.05 on launch

[berneyarms]

Originally Posted by jacko

The reason for the lack of publicity is that until the cash fare increase takes effect next week the leap return fare is more expensive!

Cork/Cobh is 8.50 cash return.

Leap is 4.65 each way

When the revised fares take effect, the fares for Cork/Cobh will be:

Single - Cash €6.05 / LEAP €4.65
Return - Cash €9.90 / LEAP €9.20 (capped)

[bg07]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Is actually 9.20 return on Leap as there is a 9.20 day cap on Irish Rail Leap fares in Cork

4.65 is the NTA approved fare

Does the weekly cap apply in Cork as well?

Are the cap amounts (daily and weekly if applicable) tied to the irish rail SHZ ones in Dublin? I presume there is a limit in how many different cap balances a leap card can handle