The Leap Card Thread

[berneyarms]

Originally Posted by haddockman

There is nothing to stop the locals from travelling to the airport to stock up on the cards. I assume they will sell them to anyone?

Do you seriously think people are going to trek out to the airport in large numbers just to buy a transport ticket?

[markpb]

Originally Posted by Inniskeen

Ticket should be available everywhere but should only be valid with a non Irish passport, the number of which should be on the ticket.

What about tourists from the UK who don't require a passport to get here?

[Mark Gleeson]

They can't refuse to sell you the ticket on the basis of nationality

[Traincustomer]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

But not available from Dublin Port, Dun Laoghaire Port or any official tourist information office.

I share this view that it should be available to ferry foot passengers entering the country via the two Dublin Bay ports.

[Inniskeen]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

They can't refuse to sell you the ticket on the basis of nationality

It is not particularly unusual for tickets to be sold on the basis of country of residence (using passports as the control) - BritRail passes can be purchased by holders of non-UK passports.

Most European cities have one, two and three day tickets, generally available to everybody - this is probably the way the Dublin ticket will evolve. This type of ticket is very convenient for tourists and other visitors as it avoids continually battling with unfamiliar ticket machines and mastering local peculiarities.

[berneyarms]

Originally Posted by Inniskeen

It is not particularly unusual for tickets to be sold on the basis of country of residence (using passports as the control) - BritRail passes can be purchased by holders of non-UK passports.

Most European cities have one, two and three day tickets, generally available to everybody - this is probably the way the Dublin ticket will evolve. This type of ticket is very convenient for tourists and other visitors as it avoids continually battling with unfamiliar ticket machines and mastering local peculiarities.

Local residents can already avail of daily/weekly capping rates.

The number of tickets is being reduced drastically to reflect this.

[haddockman]

Originally Posted by Inniskeen

It is not particularly unusual for tickets to be sold on the basis of country of residence (using passports as the control) - BritRail passes can be purchased by holders of non-UK passports.

Most European cities have one, two and three day tickets, generally available to everybody - this is probably the way the Dublin ticket will evolve. This type of ticket is very convenient for tourists and other visitors as it avoids continually battling with unfamiliar ticket machines and mastering local peculiarities.

How does a passport show the country of residence? As I said earlier plenty of Irish passport holders are not resident in Ireland and are thus resident elsewhere.

I think your idea is flawed.

[bg07]

Originally Posted by haddockman

How does a passport show the country of residence? As I said earlier plenty of Irish passport holders are not resident in Ireland and are thus resident elsewhere.

I think your idea is flawed.

Interrail tickets are either not valid or only valid for partial discounts for residents of a particular country when travelling in their country of residence.

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When I was using some inspectors asked specifically to see ID and I used a passport. I presume other forms of ID other than a passport would be accepted to prove your country of residency. If they wanted they could enforce a similar system here but I doubt it would be worth the hassle.

[Inniskeen]

Originally Posted by berneyarms

Local residents can already avail of daily/weekly capping rates.

The number of tickets is being reduced drastically to reflect this.

Capping is fine for regular users, not much use for occasional visitors be they Irish residents or otherwise. London has the Oyster card but you can still purchase a one day ticket from a vending machine. Two and Three day tickets are also available.

Don't see any reason why tickets with similar validity shouldn't be available in Dublin at all major visitor entry points and tourist offices and preferably at TVMs around the city. They can be priced attractively without undermining revenue from regular commuters.

[Inniskeen]

Originally Posted by haddockman

How does a passport show the country of residence? As I said earlier plenty of Irish passport holders are not resident in Ireland and are thus resident elsewhere.

I think your idea is flawed.

Although not perfect there is a fairly good correspondence between passport and residence. Requiring a passport is probably over the top for a low cost urban transport ticket that is really useful for convenience and needn't be priced at a level that makes it overly attractive to regular commuters. It would be better to have these tickets easily available either from all citywide vending machines or at least from all major transport hubs and tourist office. Minimum hassle, maximum convenience.

[Eddie]

Does anyone know if I can use my Dublin Leap Card on public transport in another region, eg Cork buses for example? Or would I have to obtain a separate Cork Leap Card?

[Mark Gleeson]

One card does all

[comcor]

In practice, it depends.

A Leap Card will work fine on Bus Eireann buses in Cork and Galway, but not other cities yet.

On Irish Rail, the only place it works outside the Dublin region is on Cork-Cobh/Midleton, and there it only works if you are loading passes onto it, not for pay as you go fares.

[Eddie]

Thanks - that's helpful.

Incidentally - can a "Thanks" comment be incorporated into threads so the message can be conveyed without the need to add a new message, like they have on Boards.ie?

[Mark Gleeson]

It can if you pay the significant upgrade fees to vBulletin

[Eddie]

Ensure you keep a regular check on your Leap Card history, as system errors resulting in overcharging are not being refunded on claims after more than 30 days.

[Traincustomer]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Ensure you keep a regular check on your Leap Card history, as system errors resulting in overcharging are not being refunded on claims after more than 30 days.

In my view the Leap Card section of the NTA could and should have refunded this money to you as a once off goodwill gesture while drawing attention to the 30 day policy.

[comcor]

Any word on when Pay As You Go Leap will be available on Cork Commuter services

I see a covered-up validator at Cobh station now.

[Mark Gleeson]

Validators are in, back end software and a fares determination are now required, can't test without the fares

[bg07]

Cork suburban rail leap epurse fares were included in the last fare determination so fare determination is not an issue.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-...tober_2014.pdf