Delay & Ticket buying - Page 2

joey · 23-09-2013, 07:19

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Originally Posted by James Howard

I travel from Edgeworthstown where there has been two empty TVM cabinets for a year. At the moment the station is open on very restricted hours.

I travel reguarly from Cooloney and its the same there, two empty TVM cabinets. Granted there is little to no chance of fare evasion as the services are always well managed by IR staff. But for the convience of buying and collecting online tickets booked it would be helpful even if there was one machine in operation

joey · 23-09-2013, 07:21

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

One station in Dublin only lacks a TVM, mainly due to the risk that it will be burned, robbed or stolen.

In a roundabout way this actually has been a huge asset in fare evasion prosecutions, "I got on at Broombridge....", Irish Rail, "no you didn't as we had staff there this morning, and have the CCTV to prove you were not there."

Fully agree and appreciate that.
However, Ashtown missing TVM on Dublin City bound platform

Mark Gleeson · 23-09-2013, 09:02

Pretty sure Ashtown city bound has a machine hidden under the footbridge

Colm Moore · 23-09-2013, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Pretty sure Ashtown city bound has a machine hidden under the footbridge

The problem is for people who live north of the line having to cross the railway twice.

Mark Gleeson · 23-09-2013, 11:38

Ashtown has machines on both sides and access on both sides

joey · 24-09-2013, 06:59

Just a leap card machine under the footbridge - city bound.

Two TVMs have appeared in Cooloney, well done IR

Via Cortober · 24-09-2013, 11:19

Two TVMs have appeared in Cooloney, well done IR

Hmm, two TVMs in Collooney (and none in Carrick-on-Shannon)!? Am I missing something, is there a busy commuter service from Collooney into Sligo? Or is it in preparation for re-opening the long-lamented lines to Enniskillen and Claremorris?

haddockman · 24-09-2013, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Via Cortober

PS
The €14.99 one-way fare x 2 (return) booked online seven+ days in advance comes to €29.98 + €2 transaction = €31.98 (using a debit card and leaving out the €1 for a credit card charge). The ticket bought on the day at the station came to €30.50. So no discounts for same day return tickets.

Also if you book online you are forced to commit to a particular train for each segment of the journey.
If you rock up to the station on the day you have the freedom to use any service that day and it is cheaper too.

Via Cortober · 24-09-2013, 12:29

Yep, Haddockman.

It's difficult to imagine that it's not intentional, but that the logic cannot be explained because it might be controversial. If there has to be a person at a station ticket office then there can be little benefit to selling cheaper tickets in advance online. Perhaps the deployment of TVMs in certain circumstances may depend on staff retirements?

comcor · 24-09-2013, 12:49

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Originally Posted by haddockman

Also if you book online you are forced to commit to a particular train for each segment of the journey.
If you rock up to the station on the day you have the freedom to use any service that day and it is cheaper too.

This one bugs me greatly. I would like to be offered the choice of a flexible ticket (for the return portion, but why not even for the full journey) online, even if it means I will be paying more.

Often if travelling to Dublin for work, I know I will be on the 6am train ex Cork. I don't know for certain what time I will finish up or whether I will end up socializing with people from the Dublin office, so I could be on any one of the 5pm, 6pm, 7pm or 9pm trains down.

What all this means is that I end up buying my ticket in the station at 5:50am. It doesn't encourage online booking.

Jamie2k9 · 24-09-2013, 16:41

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Originally Posted by comcor

This one bugs me greatly. I would like to be offered the choice of a flexible ticket (for the return portion, but why not even for the full journey) online, even if it means I will be paying more.

Often if travelling to Dublin for work, I know I will be on the 6am train ex Cork. I don't know for certain what time I will finish up or whether I will end up socializing with people from the Dublin office, so I could be on any one of the 5pm, 6pm, 7pm or 9pm trains down.

What all this means is that I end up buying my ticket in the station at 5:50am. It doesn't encourage online booking.

The cost of changing a train is very rarely enforced.

joey · 24-09-2013, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by haddockman

Also if you book online you are forced to commit to a particular train for each segment of the journey.
If you rock up to the station on the day you have the freedom to use any service that day and it is cheaper too.

Surely that's not on!!
What's the encouragement or advantage of prepaying online, sending money directly to the bank account of IR

joey · 24-09-2013, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Via Cortober

Two TVMs have appeared in Cooloney, well done IR

Hmm, two TVMs in Collooney (and none in Carrick-on-Shannon)!? Am I missing something, is there a busy commuter service from Collooney into Sligo? Or is it in preparation for re-opening the long-lamented lines to Enniskillen and Claremorris?

I'll add a photo link to show these very shiny and clean machines off!!

I can also confirm, the claremorris and enniskillen lines have not reopened....
Nor is there busy commuter services - though there is the odd 29k commuter floating around the line...

James Howard · 26-09-2013, 06:24

Obviously something going on with the Sligo line. Two machines have just appeared in Edgeworthstown as well. Oddly enough, you can only buy Sligo line tickets on them - you can't even buy a through ticket to Dun Laoghaire for example. Maybe this is normal, I've never used a TVM in Ireland apart from the Luas.

comcor · 26-09-2013, 07:19

Not being able to buy through tickets is normal enough at a TVM. From Cork, I can't buy a ticket to a DART station. From Cobh and Midleton you can't buy a ticket to Dublin.

Colm Moore · 26-09-2013, 07:47

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Originally Posted by James Howard

you can only buy Sligo line tickets on them

All Irish Rail TVMs are set up such that you can only buy a ticket on the same line.

Thomas Ralph · 26-09-2013, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Colm Moore

All Irish Rail TVMs are set up such that you can only buy a ticket on the same line.

That doesn't mean it's right!

James Howard · 26-09-2013, 20:04

It kind of makes it a bit pointless as when they inevitably curtail the hours of the station even further this just makes it a pain for customers and Irish Rail. There there will be a much more complicated transaction involved to add the difference onto the fare.

joey · 28-09-2013, 08:09

Cheaper to buy a ticket on the day from the machine, rather than booking online - good job IR ;-)

4 car set of a 29K 1800 ex Sligo Friday evening miracously made up a twenty minute delay to arrive just a minute late into maynooth. It was a flyer though the usual ten minute stop in edgeworthstown (22K to Longford) was avoided so this helped to bring the delay back in line.

Bumpy enough now in places....

What's the max speed of a 29K?

Colm Moore · 29-09-2013, 09:21

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Originally Posted by joey

What's the max speed of a 29K?

75 mph / 120 km/h

23-09-2013, 09:02	#23
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Pretty sure Ashtown city bound has a machine hidden under the footbridge __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

23-09-2013, 11:38	#25
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Ashtown has machines on both sides and access on both sides __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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24-09-2013, 06:59	#26
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	Just a leap card machine under the footbridge - city bound. Two TVMs have appeared in Cooloney, well done IR

24-09-2013, 11:19	#27
Via Cortober New to the board Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The RoLoCoS Triangle Posts: 9	Two TVMs have appeared in Cooloney, well done IR Hmm, two TVMs in Collooney (and none in Carrick-on-Shannon)!? Am I missing something, is there a busy commuter service from Collooney into Sligo? Or is it in preparation for re-opening the long-lamented lines to Enniskillen and Claremorris?

24-09-2013, 12:29	#29
Via Cortober New to the board Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The RoLoCoS Triangle Posts: 9	Yep, Haddockman. It's difficult to imagine that it's not intentional, but that the logic cannot be explained because it might be controversial. If there has to be a person at a station ticket office then there can be little benefit to selling cheaper tickets in advance online. Perhaps the deployment of TVMs in certain circumstances may depend on staff retirements?

26-09-2013, 06:24	#34
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	Obviously something going on with the Sligo line. Two machines have just appeared in Edgeworthstown as well. Oddly enough, you can only buy Sligo line tickets on them - you can't even buy a through ticket to Dun Laoghaire for example. Maybe this is normal, I've never used a TVM in Ireland apart from the Luas.

26-09-2013, 07:19	#35
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Not being able to buy through tickets is normal enough at a TVM. From Cork, I can't buy a ticket to a DART station. From Cobh and Midleton you can't buy a ticket to Dublin.

26-09-2013, 20:04	#38
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	It kind of makes it a bit pointless as when they inevitably curtail the hours of the station even further this just makes it a pain for customers and Irish Rail. There there will be a much more complicated transaction involved to add the difference onto the fare.

28-09-2013, 08:09	#39
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	Cheaper to buy a ticket on the day from the machine, rather than booking online - good job IR ;-) 4 car set of a 29K 1800 ex Sligo Friday evening miracously made up a twenty minute delay to arrive just a minute late into maynooth. It was a flyer though the usual ten minute stop in edgeworthstown (22K to Longford) was avoided so this helped to bring the delay back in line. Bumpy enough now in places.... What's the max speed of a 29K?