I knew I should have went out!

Derek Wheeler · 20-05-2006, 22:51

Before ThomasJ gets in, I'm gonna say it.........EUROVISION!!

Holy Sh**e! What the hell was that from Finland??? Most of the ahem..."songs" were, as usual, awful. But that Finland job was just taking the p**s.....badly. I know my metal and that effort was pure crap. It had more novelty than a matinee performance by Westlife. Made Slipknot look credible.
Obviously the "backward" music tastes of large parts of eastern Europe loved it and Ireland and the UK voted highly for it coz it has been doing the rounds and I think its safe to say that we have moved on from taking this outdated "contest" seriously. Im still laughing, but that could be the 2 bottles of vino.

Anyway, block voting is alive and well. I'd read about it and can honestly say that I havent watched Eurovision since the last time we won it with some little nimp singing in a nauseating high pitched tone. Can't remember her name. But I couldn't believe the sheer cheek of eastern europe and its isolationist mentality in the voting.............(opening third bottle)......when did all that lot start coming into it???

Bottom line and my uninformed and inebreated opinion on it. Eastern Europe and Scandinavia still thinks Heavy metal is relevent

And Eastern bloc countries wouldn't recognise a decent song if it bit them on the you know what! I can forgive them for that. But Scandanavia needs to start copin on a bit. Ah lads, Come on will ya. If its not poppy crap,(Roxette, A-Ha, overrated ABBA) its outdated, over acted and badly written muck posing as heavy metal, which was never great in its day anyway, except for a few pioneers, who have since realised that its had its day and its time to cut the hair and hang up the fender bender. Sure didn't that Scando band, Europe, get conscripted into an army so they couldn't inflict anymore pain on us? Final countdown alright......to oblivion. Thank God!

I say we bring back Johnny Logan and Dana next year. They can be a double act called LOGANS NUN. Johnny can dress up as a crazed monk with Dana in the black and white gear. Throw in a couple of guitars, few bottles of whiskey, a whip, some chains, a chainsaw and a cement mixer. Then we can sit back and watch Ireland blow the heads of eastern Europe and Scandanavia with an act of musical anarchy, wanton debauchery and total pandamonium.

At least Munster performed and won in an unbiased and relevent arena today. For that we can be thankful.

Time to leave the Eurovision to the newcomers and musically challenged countries. They've 30 years catching up to do and I think they need it.

I blame Bucks Fizz.

sean · 20-05-2006, 23:29

I saw 2 types of votes in Eurovision.

Votes for the voting country's neighbors, and votes for Finland.

No the Finns effort wasn't great but IMO Eurovision standards have been falling over the past 5 years and I think the viewers liked the refreshing change from all the glitzy flash with very uninspiring pop songs.

Derek Wheeler · 20-05-2006, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean

I think the viewers liked the refreshing change from all the glitzy flash with very uninspiring pop songs.

But the winning entry was just an uninspiring piece of over the top slipknot rip off crap.

The European Broadcasting Union should donate this contest to Eastern Europe and Scandanavia. That would leave the rest of us to watch a decent movie on a certain Saturday night every May and listen to "music" that was created by people who have some semblence of a tune.

sean · 20-05-2006, 23:40

That's my point. It may not have been great, but it was different.

And no point in bashing the Scandinavians, didn't we send the worst song in history to the Ukraine last year?

PaulM · 21-05-2006, 12:51

Lordi are just a poor man's GWAR.*

Look up GWAR un wikipedia.

philip · 21-05-2006, 14:25

Googling Eurovision reveals that Italy ceased entering in 1997 as they reckon it's a total crock. I think we should do the same. I watched it on the Beeb as Wogan is hilarious in his commentary. He cracked up at one pont and couldn't stop laughing (at the Greek 'shadow puppets' part of the interval show).

Mark Gleeson · 21-05-2006, 14:29

Need I say more

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ordi&pl=tru e

PaulM · 21-05-2006, 14:34

Wasn't the canteen named the canteen because of a Eurovision discussion (as in the things people talk about in work canteens). Glad to see this Platform 11 tradidtion goes strong.

Round two: Who would win in a fight between GWAR and Lordi? I would have to say GWAR. Oderus Urungus is 28Million years old. I'd say he's been in more wars than the dude out of Lordi has had hot maggots for dinner.

craigybagel · 21-05-2006, 16:48

Now i might just be too young and nieve to get the humour here but are some people taking eurovision seriously?! Enjoy it for what it is and dont try and take it seriously life as a train user in this countrys depressing enough without letting eurovision get to you!

sean · 21-05-2006, 18:13

Ireland does not take the Eurovision seriously

That was proved last year with the crew we sent to the Ukraine. Their song must have been the worst song ever written in human history.

Mark Hennessy · 21-05-2006, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigybagel

Now i might just be too young and nieve to get the humour here but are some people taking eurovision seriously?! Enjoy it for what it is and dont try and take it seriously life as a train user in this countrys depressing enough without letting eurovision get to you!

Exactly, Eurovision is a fantastic night for watching crap pop, hot women and listening to Wogan complain. Its just a night of fun. Try adding some drinking games to it next year and you'll be in the Eurovision spirit!

Donal Quinn · 21-05-2006, 22:44

well eurovision can be taken seriously cos it reveals some interesting things about europeans and who we want to be. it's especially good because it's not controlled by the elites but the middle class - hard to get any information on those chappies!!

ireland is interesting cos we went through loads of different approaches to it to match our development. in the 1990s winning mattered to us and we sent genuinely talented songsters to win and felt very european when we did

then when we got rich and stopped caring about what the world thought of us we decided to make money out of it and let 13 year olds choose the songer because they were willing to pay for it - now it seems that a combination of the qualifying system and our own maturity means we send a proper singer (or at least a close approximation of!!) and are happy with tenth place

Eurovision is great because it says so much about a country and its hopes - look at what winning means to israel, turkey and ukraine - it lets them be europeans, if only for an evening...

i'm sure someone who knows about finland will say that the song was a reaction to the conservative nature of society there or something like that

the voting patterns are even more fascinating - people complain about "balkan blocs" etc but the fact that young serbs and croats are willing to vote for each other despite the fact that their elites don't even speak to each other is amazing.
then there is the immigrant populations - germany gives 12 to turkey and israel gives 12 to russia - dunno what we gave to poland but watch it rise as years go by

---------
interestingly the americans are going to run a similar one for the states to compete in. the states in the US are notoriously self conscious or self absorbed (new york) or a combination thereof -

craigybagel · 21-05-2006, 23:12

Im sure you could learn an awful lot from it by studying it in great detail. Or you could just sit back relax and laugh..........

Thomas J Stamp · 22-05-2006, 09:43

Ha ha, was too busy this weekend to post, Derek.

But I'm glad that many many people in Ireland agreed with me that VE ARE DER VINNERISH OF EUROVISION was by far the best song on the night.

As for Brian, he was much better on Thursday, perhaps he should have winked at the camera again on Saturday. Dont forget that all of the countries that finished (ha ha) ahead of us are all the Baltic-Balkan group hug, lets-all-kill-each-other brigade.

I must admit to having attended a few Eurovision parties over the years and am glad to say that Mrs Thomasjstamp is a committed eurovision fan as well (it took a while and some rohypnol, to be sure) and would admit to being a big fan.

As for Wogan, he was right, France dont care anymore.

We ought to send in JackL next year. That ought to send us back to the semi-finals at the very least, if not banishment altogether.

Oh, on another note, went to Portloaise yesterday to see the Dub hurlers getting beat in a bleedin monsoon. My mate who came down from Dublin told me that the doors didnt open in his carriage in the Station and he had to hot foot it to another carriage to get off, othewrwise he'd have been in Mallow.

So he really should have gone to Mallow.

James Shields · 26-05-2006, 20:49

I'm glad to say that not only did I miss the whole Eurovision contest, but I didn't even realise it was on. I was watching an excellent band called The Legendary Shack Shakers. I'm sure you can Google for them if Unfortunately we couldn't enter them because they're not from this island or even this continent, but if we did enter something like that, whether we win or lose, we'd at least be different.

Believe it or not, I'm convinced that we've been taking the contest quite seriously for years. We went therough a phase where winning 3 times in 4 years (or was it 4 in 5?), and the nearly bankrupt RTE, if not the country. After that, I think a serious effort was made to make sure we couldn't win it, and it's taken till now to untangle that mess since the organisers reckon we could afford to win it again and probably would quite like to.

I agree, though, last year's entry was the worst song ever. We'd have been better off with "My Lovely Horse".

20-05-2006, 22:51	#1
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	I knew I should have went out! Before ThomasJ gets in, I'm gonna say it.........EUROVISION!! Holy She! What the hell was that from Finland??? Most of the ahem..."songs" were, as usual, awful. But that Finland job was just taking the ps.....badly. I know my metal and that effort was pure crap. It had more novelty than a matinee performance by Westlife. Made Slipknot look credible. Obviously the "backward" music tastes of large parts of eastern Europe loved it and Ireland and the UK voted highly for it coz it has been doing the rounds and I think its safe to say that we have moved on from taking this outdated "contest" seriously. Im still laughing, but that could be the 2 bottles of vino. Anyway, block voting is alive and well. I'd read about it and can honestly say that I havent watched Eurovision since the last time we won it with some little nimp singing in a nauseating high pitched tone. Can't remember her name. But I couldn't believe the sheer cheek of eastern europe and its isolationist mentality in the voting.............(opening third bottle)......when did all that lot start coming into it??? Bottom line and my uninformed and inebreated opinion on it. Eastern Europe and Scandinavia still thinks Heavy metal is relevent And Eastern bloc countries wouldn't recognise a decent song if it bit them on the you know what! I can forgive them for that. But Scandanavia needs to start copin on a bit. Ah lads, Come on will ya. If its not poppy crap,(Roxette, A-Ha, overrated ABBA) its outdated, over acted and badly written muck posing as heavy metal, which was never great in its day anyway, except for a few pioneers, who have since realised that its had its day and its time to cut the hair and hang up the fender bender. Sure didn't that Scando band, Europe, get conscripted into an army so they couldn't inflict anymore pain on us? Final countdown alright......to oblivion. Thank God! I say we bring back Johnny Logan and Dana next year. They can be a double act called LOGANS NUN. Johnny can dress up as a crazed monk with Dana in the black and white gear. Throw in a couple of guitars, few bottles of whiskey, a whip, some chains, a chainsaw and a cement mixer. Then we can sit back and watch Ireland blow the heads of eastern Europe and Scandanavia with an act of musical anarchy, wanton debauchery and total pandamonium. At least Munster performed and won in an unbiased and relevent arena today. For that we can be thankful. Time to leave the Eurovision to the newcomers and musically challenged countries. They've 30 years catching up to do and I think they need it. I blame Bucks Fizz.

22-05-2006, 09:43	#14
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Ha ha, was too busy this weekend to post, Derek. But I'm glad that many many people in Ireland agreed with me that VE ARE DER VINNERISH OF EUROVISION was by far the best song on the night. As for Brian, he was much better on Thursday, perhaps he should have winked at the camera again on Saturday. Dont forget that all of the countries that finished (ha ha) ahead of us are all the Baltic-Balkan group hug, lets-all-kill-each-other brigade. I must admit to having attended a few Eurovision parties over the years and am glad to say that Mrs Thomasjstamp is a committed eurovision fan as well (it took a while and some rohypnol, to be sure) and would admit to being a big fan. As for Wogan, he was right, France dont care anymore. We ought to send in JackL next year. That ought to send us back to the semi-finals at the very least, if not banishment altogether. Oh, on another note, went to Portloaise yesterday to see the Dub hurlers getting beat in a bleedin monsoon. My mate who came down from Dublin told me that the doors didnt open in his carriage in the Station and he had to hot foot it to another carriage to get off, othewrwise he'd have been in Mallow. So he really should have gone to Mallow. __________________ We are the passengers Last edited by Thomas J Stamp : 22-05-2006 at 09:45.

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20-05-2006, 23:29	#2
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	I saw 2 types of votes in Eurovision. Votes for the voting country's neighbors, and votes for Finland. No the Finns effort wasn't great but IMO Eurovision standards have been falling over the past 5 years and I think the viewers liked the refreshing change from all the glitzy flash with very uninspiring pop songs.

20-05-2006, 23:40	#4
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	That's my point. It may not have been great, but it was different. And no point in bashing the Scandinavians, didn't we send the worst song in history to the Ukraine last year?

21-05-2006, 12:51	#5
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	Lordi are just a poor man's GWAR.* Look up GWAR un wikipedia.

21-05-2006, 14:25	#6
philip Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 632	Googling Eurovision reveals that Italy ceased entering in 1997 as they reckon it's a total crock. I think we should do the same. I watched it on the Beeb as Wogan is hilarious in his commentary. He cracked up at one pont and couldn't stop laughing (at the Greek 'shadow puppets' part of the interval show).

21-05-2006, 14:29	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Need I say more http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ordi&pl=tru e

21-05-2006, 14:34	#8
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	Wasn't the canteen named the canteen because of a Eurovision discussion (as in the things people talk about in work canteens). Glad to see this Platform 11 tradidtion goes strong. Round two: Who would win in a fight between GWAR and Lordi? I would have to say GWAR. Oderus Urungus is 28Million years old. I'd say he's been in more wars than the dude out of Lordi has had hot maggots for dinner.

21-05-2006, 16:48	#9
craigybagel Regular Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wicklow Kilbarrack cork and all stations between Posts: 74	Now i might just be too young and nieve to get the humour here but are some people taking eurovision seriously?! Enjoy it for what it is and dont try and take it seriously life as a train user in this countrys depressing enough without letting eurovision get to you!

21-05-2006, 18:13	#10
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	Ireland does not take the Eurovision seriously That was proved last year with the crew we sent to the Ukraine. Their song must have been the worst song ever written in human history.

21-05-2006, 22:44	#12
Donal Quinn Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 267	well eurovision can be taken seriously cos it reveals some interesting things about europeans and who we want to be. it's especially good because it's not controlled by the elites but the middle class - hard to get any information on those chappies!! ireland is interesting cos we went through loads of different approaches to it to match our development. in the 1990s winning mattered to us and we sent genuinely talented songsters to win and felt very european when we did then when we got rich and stopped caring about what the world thought of us we decided to make money out of it and let 13 year olds choose the songer because they were willing to pay for it - now it seems that a combination of the qualifying system and our own maturity means we send a proper singer (or at least a close approximation of!!) and are happy with tenth place Eurovision is great because it says so much about a country and its hopes - look at what winning means to israel, turkey and ukraine - it lets them be europeans, if only for an evening... i'm sure someone who knows about finland will say that the song was a reaction to the conservative nature of society there or something like that the voting patterns are even more fascinating - people complain about "balkan blocs" etc but the fact that young serbs and croats are willing to vote for each other despite the fact that their elites don't even speak to each other is amazing. then there is the immigrant populations - germany gives 12 to turkey and israel gives 12 to russia - dunno what we gave to poland but watch it rise as years go by --------- interestingly the americans are going to run a similar one for the states to compete in. the states in the US are notoriously self conscious or self absorbed (new york) or a combination thereof -

21-05-2006, 23:12	#13
craigybagel Regular Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wicklow Kilbarrack cork and all stations between Posts: 74	Im sure you could learn an awful lot from it by studying it in great detail. Or you could just sit back relax and laugh..........

26-05-2006, 20:49	#15
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	I'm glad to say that not only did I miss the whole Eurovision contest, but I didn't even realise it was on. I was watching an excellent band called The Legendary Shack Shakers. I'm sure you can Google for them if Unfortunately we couldn't enter them because they're not from this island or even this continent, but if we did enter something like that, whether we win or lose, we'd at least be different. Believe it or not, I'm convinced that we've been taking the contest quite seriously for years. We went therough a phase where winning 3 times in 4 years (or was it 4 in 5?), and the nearly bankrupt RTE, if not the country. After that, I think a serious effort was made to make sure we couldn't win it, and it's taken till now to untangle that mess since the organisers reckon we could afford to win it again and probably would quite like to. I agree, though, last year's entry was the worst song ever. We'd have been better off with "My Lovely Horse".