Fixed penalty notices

Thomas Ralph · 13-08-2009, 14:04

Quote:

16. DO I HAVE TO PAY THE FIXED PENALTY PAYMENT
ON THE SPOT?
No, you have 21 days to pay the penalty. You are required
by law to provide your full name and address. Failure to
provide the correct details will lead to you being detained
until correct details are given. Failure to provide the correct
details when asked or to give false details is a criminal
offence and can lead to a court appearance and possible
prosecution.

In cases where details given are false or an individual is
abusive or aggressive to staff, authorised members of the
Revenue Protection Unit can detain individuals on Railway
property until their arrest by the Gardai.

Last I checked, nothing in any enactment gives IÉ staff authority to detain anyone. (Dublin Bus inspectors can, though.) Could lead to an interesting case if it ever came up.

Mark Gleeson · 13-08-2009, 14:23

Its buried in the Transport Act, they can detain

However they must be authorised officials, name badges lads, the RPU guys have special ones apparently. If they refuse to show them how do you know if they are authorised.

BTW anyone want some IE uniforms various sizes, going cheap.......

ThomasJ · 13-08-2009, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

BTW anyone want some IE uniforms various sizes, going cheap.......

Interesting idea for next halloween!

Any orange jackets!

drumcondra commuter · 14-08-2009, 07:48

Data Protection Act anyone?

Mark Gleeson · 14-08-2009, 07:59

Its fully legal

If you do pay the fine in time, all reference to the fine existing are deleted

Thomas Ralph · 14-08-2009, 08:40

Indeed. It is not, legally speaking, a fine and does not count as a criminal conviction or anything.

13-08-2009, 14:23	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its buried in the Transport Act, they can detain However they must be authorised officials, name badges lads, the RPU guys have special ones apparently. If they refuse to show them how do you know if they are authorised. BTW anyone want some IE uniforms various sizes, going cheap....... __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

14-08-2009, 07:59	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its fully legal If you do pay the fine in time, all reference to the fine existing are deleted __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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14-08-2009, 07:48	#4
drumcondra commuter Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Drumcondra, Dublin 9 Posts: 121	Data Protection Act anyone?

14-08-2009, 08:40	#6
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	Indeed. It is not, legally speaking, a fine and does not count as a criminal conviction or anything.