[24.09.08] 06:30 Drogheda Rosslare - A 4 Car set

chuggachuggachoochoo · 24-09-2008, 20:02

This morning we had a 4 car 29k set in place of the usual 8 car non-29k. No announcement was made about reduced capacity.

chuggachuggachoochoo · 25-09-2008, 07:15

Same story this morning on the 06:30 ex Drogheda. Is there a shortage of rolling stock on the Northern line recently?

Mark Gleeson · 25-09-2008, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuggachuggachoochoo

This morning we had a 4 car 29k set in place of the usual 8 car non-29k. No announcement was made about reduced capacity.

6:30 is a 6 coach 2800 unit, not a 8 coach 29k. There isn't a spare 28k so if one breaks you get a short train. Of course be nice to be told

Thomas Ralph · 27-09-2008, 06:58

This one's a 4-car 29K again today, 29X21 to be specific. Car 3 has a horrendous smell in it and it doesn't even have a toilet. The accessible toilet is in an awful mess. How often are the railcars supposed to be serviced and cleaned? I miss the Mk4s and their onboard cleaner and train host...

Thomas Ralph · 28-09-2008, 18:36

Back on 29X21 on my way back north. The PIS has just gone insane and is going through the messages:

06
06
06
.noitatS yllonnoC rof si niart sihT .murdhtaR si noitats txen ehT
hgnohC Ã*U tS Ã*td og nieart na oeS
.VTCC htiw dettif si niart siht ytiruces dna ytefas ruoy roF

I pity any foreigners on board trying to decipher that.

chuggachuggachoochoo · 01-10-2008, 07:10

Back to the 4 car 29k set today

Thomas Ralph · 01-10-2008, 20:07

No change there then...

Mark Gleeson · 27-02-2009, 20:34

There was been long standing shortage of railcars, we are quoted in the Sunday Business Post a while back on the topic

The 6:30 service is booked for a 6 coach 2800 railcar and is currently running as a 4 coach train (it can't possibly be 3 coaches)

There is an overhaul project of the 2600 fleet currently underway which is impacting on train lengths. The 2600 fleet are the most unreliable fleet and have inflicted much pain on commuters in recent years with frequent breakdowns so the work is required.

I've been given the tour of the depot in Drogheda as have senior engineers from numerous rather envious railways across Europe. They currently hold the unoffical most reliable fleet of diesel commuter trains in Europe title, can't fault their efforts. Irish Rail simply never order enough coaches for the demand, always seems to be out by just that small amount to result in these kind of unacceptable situations.

A further 51 coaches are on order and tenders out to overhaul 48 intercity coaches of which 32 are to provide a hourly service Dublin Belfast, however with Midelton and the Western Railway Corridor opening this Summer things are not going to get anyway better

sublimity · 27-02-2009, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

A further 51 coaches are on order and tenders out to overhaul 48 intercity coaches of which 32 are to provide a hourly service Dublin Belfast

These 51 coaches are the 22ks right?

roamling · 28-02-2009, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

The 6:30 service is booked for a 6 coach 2800 railcar and is currently running as a 4 coach train (it can't possibly be 3 coaches)

yeah thats correct, when I said 3 train set I meant 3 set's with 2 coaches each = 6 coaches.
I meant to highlight that they are running the train thats supposed to run but not always.

roamling · 25-03-2009, 08:40

after 3 weeks of normal service we were back again to the 4 car set this morning...
No announcement on the train why and no apology for the reduced service (at least not in between Rush/Lusk - Connolly when I was on the train)

back to the "we have an issue, but we don`t tell you - deal with it" mentality

what a ignorant service

roamling · 26-03-2009, 11:53

short again today. I am pretty much

. steam coming out of my ears.....

Is there anything else one can do against this misery other than writing endless e-mail complaints to the Customer Service Manager for the Northern and Eastern department?

24-09-2008, 20:02	#1
chuggachuggachoochoo Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Drogheda Posts: 51	[24.09.08] 06:30 Drogheda Rosslare - A 4 Car set This morning we had a 4 car 29k set in place of the usual 8 car non-29k. No announcement was made about reduced capacity.

28-09-2008, 18:36	#5
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	Back on 29X21 on my way back north. The PIS has just gone insane and is going through the messages: 06 06 06 .noitatS yllonnoC rof si niart sihT .murdhtaR si noitats txen ehT hgnohC ÃU tS Ãtd og nieart na oeS .VTCC htiw dettif si niart siht ytiruces dna ytefas ruoy roF I pity any foreigners on board trying to decipher that.

27-02-2009, 20:34	#8
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There was been long standing shortage of railcars, we are quoted in the Sunday Business Post a while back on the topic The 6:30 service is booked for a 6 coach 2800 railcar and is currently running as a 4 coach train (it can't possibly be 3 coaches) There is an overhaul project of the 2600 fleet currently underway which is impacting on train lengths. The 2600 fleet are the most unreliable fleet and have inflicted much pain on commuters in recent years with frequent breakdowns so the work is required. I've been given the tour of the depot in Drogheda as have senior engineers from numerous rather envious railways across Europe. They currently hold the unoffical most reliable fleet of diesel commuter trains in Europe title, can't fault their efforts. Irish Rail simply never order enough coaches for the demand, always seems to be out by just that small amount to result in these kind of unacceptable situations. A further 51 coaches are on order and tenders out to overhaul 48 intercity coaches of which 32 are to provide a hourly service Dublin Belfast, however with Midelton and the Western Railway Corridor opening this Summer things are not going to get anyway better __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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25-09-2008, 07:15	#2
chuggachuggachoochoo Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Drogheda Posts: 51	Same story this morning on the 06:30 ex Drogheda. Is there a shortage of rolling stock on the Northern line recently?

27-09-2008, 06:58	#4
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	This one's a 4-car 29K again today, 29X21 to be specific. Car 3 has a horrendous smell in it and it doesn't even have a toilet. The accessible toilet is in an awful mess. How often are the railcars supposed to be serviced and cleaned? I miss the Mk4s and their onboard cleaner and train host...

01-10-2008, 07:10	#6
chuggachuggachoochoo Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Drogheda Posts: 51	Back to the 4 car 29k set today

01-10-2008, 20:07	#7
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	No change there then...

25-03-2009, 08:40	#11
roamling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lusk Posts: 112	after 3 weeks of normal service we were back again to the 4 car set this morning... No announcement on the train why and no apology for the reduced service (at least not in between Rush/Lusk - Connolly when I was on the train) back to the "we have an issue, but we don`t tell you - deal with it" mentality what a ignorant service

26-03-2009, 11:53	#12
roamling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lusk Posts: 112	short again today. I am pretty much . steam coming out of my ears..... Is there anything else one can do against this misery other than writing endless e-mail complaints to the Customer Service Manager for the Northern and Eastern department?