Capacity Kildare South

huggy · 09-10-2018, 11:10

At present most commuter trains servicing in and out of Heuston are already at max capacity, at the same time there seems to be an explosion of planning applications being approved from Sallins to Monasterevin. Has IR any orders in place or plans to order additional carriages to accommodate all these new commuters. Or are my expectations of IR too high to be even asking?

James Shields · 09-10-2018, 11:31

I think your expectations are far too high. There is some vague plan to introduce hybrid diesel/electric trains in the future, but I haven't seen any mention of when this might actually happen. There's certainly nothing on order.

ACustomer · 10-10-2018, 22:22

There are 13 or 14 2-car class 2700 sets which are hidden away in storage. Last year there appeared to have been plans to refurbish and return them to service. These units should be the obvious first answer to any emerging capacity shortages.
Has anything happened? Do we have a transport minister and an NTA which are more interested in "grand projets" than in short-term practical and affordable piecemeal improvements?

huggy · 11-10-2018, 09:28

On the back of the detail ACustomer provided, I found the following, wonder how they will be distributed across the network?

http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-rail-...15635-Jul2017/

comcor · 11-10-2018, 11:48

It's strange that the article refers to putting them on tracks around Limerick.

Even allowing for the Limerick Junction shuttle, Nenagh branch, Waterford and WRC services, Limerick isn't going to need 28 carriages.

ACustomer · 11-10-2018, 12:48

huggy, comcor, thanks. The report in the journal is dated July 2017. Has there been any move on this since? Some IE projects seem to take forever.

I should imagine that the plan is to release the 2600s and 2800s for use in the Dublin area (and Ballina?). At present there should in theory be 36 2600 and 2800 vehicles (18 2-car sets) based in Limerick. This seems an awful lot, given that ICRs also operate to Limerick Junction and Galway for some services. So maybe 13 2700 sets plus a few ICRs should be enough to cover Limerick's needs.

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huggy New to the board Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 9	Capacity Kildare South At present most commuter trains servicing in and out of Heuston are already at max capacity, at the same time there seems to be an explosion of planning applications being approved from Sallins to Monasterevin. Has IR any orders in place or plans to order additional carriages to accommodate all these new commuters. Or are my expectations of IR too high to be even asking?

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09-10-2018, 11:31	#2
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	I think your expectations are far too high. There is some vague plan to introduce hybrid diesel/electric trains in the future, but I haven't seen any mention of when this might actually happen. There's certainly nothing on order.

10-10-2018, 22:22	#3
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	There are 13 or 14 2-car class 2700 sets which are hidden away in storage. Last year there appeared to have been plans to refurbish and return them to service. These units should be the obvious first answer to any emerging capacity shortages. Has anything happened? Do we have a transport minister and an NTA which are more interested in "grand projets" than in short-term practical and affordable piecemeal improvements?

11-10-2018, 09:28	#4
huggy New to the board Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 9	On the back of the detail ACustomer provided, I found the following, wonder how they will be distributed across the network? http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-rail-...15635-Jul2017/

11-10-2018, 11:48	#5
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	It's strange that the article refers to putting them on tracks around Limerick. Even allowing for the Limerick Junction shuttle, Nenagh branch, Waterford and WRC services, Limerick isn't going to need 28 carriages.

11-10-2018, 12:48	#6
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	huggy, comcor, thanks. The report in the journal is dated July 2017. Has there been any move on this since? Some IE projects seem to take forever. I should imagine that the plan is to release the 2600s and 2800s for use in the Dublin area (and Ballina?). At present there should in theory be 36 2600 and 2800 vehicles (18 2-car sets) based in Limerick. This seems an awful lot, given that ICRs also operate to Limerick Junction and Galway for some services. So maybe 13 2700 sets plus a few ICRs should be enough to cover Limerick's needs.