[article] Phoenix Park Tunnel

Mark Gleeson · 09-03-2015, 08:42

Bit of a strange way to learn about this

http://www.sdublincoco.ie/sdcc/depar....aspx?id=46317

Grand Canal Dock confirmed as terminus

Kilocharlie · 09-03-2015, 10:12

Interesting...

4 trains per hour from Portlaoise/Kildare peak will some timetabling if intercity services are not to be delayed. Current service is one train per hour with a few extras thrown in around peak hours. Unless, of course, they mean that some will operate to/from Newbridge.

Mark Gleeson · 09-03-2015, 10:15

Info from Irish Rail this morning is 4 trains in the morning/evening peak, not 4 trains an hour.

Lots of confusion need to get some timetable clarity.

Ideally they should start a 3 train an hour Hazelhatch to Grand Canal Dock service, simple and allows for connections into services at Hazelhatch

Can then run all the Portlaoise services non stop Hazelhatch Heuston

Mark Gleeson · 09-03-2015, 10:42

And more

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-31051427.html

Jamie2k9 · 09-03-2015, 12:09

Quote:

Info from Irish Rail this morning is 4 trains in the morning/evening peak, not 4 trains an hour.

Lots of confusion need to get some timetable clarity.

Ideally they should start a 3 train an hour Hazelhatch to Grand Canal Dock service, simple and allows for connections into services at Hazelhatch

Can then run all the Portlaoise services non stop Hazelhatch Heuston

Not sure Hazelatch serves that needed, I think Portlaoise-Hazelhatch and onto GCD. Numbers beyond Hazelhatch cannot possibly justify such a service and then a shuttle to Heuston from Hazelhatch.

Cannot see IE going to stop all IC services at Hazelhatch.

As for the delays to Portlaoise, it happens but not overly major, perhaps better use of Sallins loop would help rather than holding. Remember the commuter service has enough timetabled in to absorb delays so expect it would be no different going to GCD.

James Howard · 09-03-2015, 12:18

They should probably look at doing something similar on Maynooth after Luas BXD opens. The peak-time service would work a lot better if the local traffic between Clonsilla and Broombridge was served by Dunboyne trains only and passengers could swap between Luas, Connolly and Docklands services at Broombridge.

This would obviously require better Luas / Irish Rail fare integration which isn't terribly likely but one can dream. Hopping off a Longford train at Broombridge and transferring to a tram for Stephen's Green would be a much more attractive option than the long walk from Connolly.

We could quite quickly have something that starts looking like an integrated transport system if Irish Rail get the details right.

09-03-2015, 08:42	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	[article] Phoenix Park Tunnel Bit of a strange way to learn about this http://www.sdublincoco.ie/sdcc/depar....aspx?id=46317 Grand Canal Dock confirmed as terminus __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

09-03-2015, 10:15	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Info from Irish Rail this morning is 4 trains in the morning/evening peak, not 4 trains an hour. Lots of confusion need to get some timetable clarity. Ideally they should start a 3 train an hour Hazelhatch to Grand Canal Dock service, simple and allows for connections into services at Hazelhatch Can then run all the Portlaoise services non stop Hazelhatch Heuston __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

09-03-2015, 10:42	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	And more http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-31051427.html __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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09-03-2015, 10:12	#2
Kilocharlie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 395	Interesting... 4 trains per hour from Portlaoise/Kildare peak will some timetabling if intercity services are not to be delayed. Current service is one train per hour with a few extras thrown in around peak hours. Unless, of course, they mean that some will operate to/from Newbridge.

09-03-2015, 12:18	#6
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	They should probably look at doing something similar on Maynooth after Luas BXD opens. The peak-time service would work a lot better if the local traffic between Clonsilla and Broombridge was served by Dunboyne trains only and passengers could swap between Luas, Connolly and Docklands services at Broombridge. This would obviously require better Luas / Irish Rail fare integration which isn't terribly likely but one can dream. Hopping off a Longford train at Broombridge and transferring to a tram for Stephen's Green would be a much more attractive option than the long walk from Connolly. We could quite quickly have something that starts looking like an integrated transport system if Irish Rail get the details right.