Pelletstown (D7/15) station PP application

drouse · 26-01-2013, 18:09

DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL

We Iarnród Éireann Intend to apply for: PERMISSION for development at this site: Pelletstown, Royal Canal Avenue, Dublin 7.

The development will consist of: Construction of a new railway station incorporating, 2no 174m long x 3m wide passenger platforms either side of the Sligo to Dublin railway line.

A footbridge spanning the railway connecting the proposed platforms, with 2no staircases and 2no ramps of a gradient of 1:20.

Platforms to incorporate, lighting, CCTV, ticket vending machines, railings, seating, shelters, commercial advertising, driver operating monitors, public address, customer information signs, directional and station signage.

Construction of a footbridge over the Royal Canal to provide access from Royal Canal Avenue.

Construction of stepped and ramped access from Ashington Park.

Installation of street lighting to footpaths extending from the proposed access at Ashington Park.

Clearing of existing vegetation between the park and the railway. Partial demolition of the existing boundary wall and installation of new sections of boundary wall at the ends of the platform. Landscaping between the park and the rear of the proposed new platform.

Installation of a dedicated pedestrian and cycle path across the park including disabled parking bays at Ashington Park.

Installation of street lighting to bridge over the Royal Canal as well as the immediate vicinity of Royal Canal Avenue where required.

Partial demolition of the existing boundary fence along the canal and installation of new sections of boundary fencing at the ends of the platform.

Landscaping between the canal and the rear of the proposed new platform. Installation of an ESB kiosk at Royal Canal Avenue. Construction of a Telecoms Equipment Room at the eastern end of the proposed platforms with access road from Ratoath Road.

The total works involved cover an area of approx. 2200 sq m of plan area, and approx 20 linear meters of street frontage.

The Planning Application may be inspected or purchased at a fee not exceeding the reasonable cost of making a copy at the Offices of Dublin City Council during its public opening hours and a submission or observation in relation to the application may be made to the Authority in writing on payment of a prescribed fee within the period of 5 weeks beginning on the date of receipt by the Authority of the application.

Posted: 24/01/2013

karlr42 · 26-01-2013, 21:32

Given that money has not been made available yet for the road overbridge in the vicinity, what are the chances of the money for this actually being stumped up any time soon?

eugene · 29-01-2013, 16:16

Update on Reillys Bridge here..

http://www.neighbours.ie/forums/show...rossing-update

Colm Moore · 02-02-2013, 20:23

Planning Application Reference: 2109/13 Documents not available on-line yet.

http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apa...esults%3C/a%3E

Quote:

Full Development Description

Construction of a new railway station incorporating, 2no 174m long x 3m wide passenger platforms either side of the Sligo to Dublin railway line. A footbridge spanning the railway connecting the proposed platforms, with 2no staircases and 2no ramps of a gradient of 1:20. Platforms to incorporate lighting, CCTV, ticket vending machines, railings, seatings, shelters, commercial advertising, driver operating monitors, public address, customer information signs, directional and station signage. Construction of a footbridge over the Royal Canal to provide access from Royal Canal Avenue. Construction of stepped and ramped access from Ashington Park. Installation of street lighting to footpaths extending from the proposed access at Ashington Park. Clearing of existing vegetation between the park and the railway. Partial demolition of the existing boundary wall and installation of new sections of boundary wall at the ends of the platform. Landscaping between the park and the rear of the proposed new platform. Installation of a dedicated pedestrian and cycle path across the park including disabled parking bays at Ashington Park. Installation of street lighting to bridge over the Royal Canal as well as the immediate vicinity of Royal Canal Avenue where required. Partial demolition of the existing boundary fence along the canal and installation of new sections of boundary fencing at the ends of the platform. Landscaping between the canal and the rear of the proposed new platform. Installation of an ESB kiosk at Royal Canal Avenue. Construction of a Telecoms Equipment room at the eastern end of the proposed platforms with access road from Ratoath Road. The total works involved cover an area of approx. 2200 sqm of plan area, and approx 20 linear metres of street frontage.

dowlingm · 02-02-2013, 22:35

What's the source of funds for this project?

Colm Moore · 14-02-2013, 22:36

The drawings still aren't on-line, so I took a look at them in the council offices today.

This should give the general layout: http://www.dublincity.ie/LocationPub...tureid=2109/13 You may need to click on the "thumb tack" icon on the left hand side.

Essentially, it is an unmanned station, with ticket barriers. Two platforms, a bridge and steps and long ramps to the bridge. There is a second bridge across the canal and a footpath/cyclepath from Ashington Avenue to the south entrance to the station. It will be about 1km from Ashtown and Broombridge stations and a few hundred metres west of Reilly's Bridge. The footbridge will be public - it will reduce the walking/cycling distance from Ashington Park to Royal Canal Park, Dublin Industrial Estate and Finglas by approximately 3km.

Approximate location of proposed bridge over canal: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Ashing...,183.4,,0,4.75

Approximate location of start of footpath/cyclepath from Ashington Avenue to the south entrance to the station: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Ashing...51. 27,,0,6.3

Concerns would be that:
* It will be unmanned and indeed unmannable - the fear it would turn into another Broombridge.
* It makes no attempt to join with Dublin Bus routes 120 or 122.
* The entrance to the south is across parkland for 150 metres.
* I'm not certain the ramps 'work'.
* The entrance to the north is relatively undeveloped.

karlr42 · 14-02-2013, 23:22

Looks like that might generate a bunch of resident objections from within , can't say I blame them.

Why is it unmannable? No room for a station building? I agree that's definitely a problem given the area.

Also, it's kind of a shame, this will slow down trains a lot, it's placed on one of the few stretches of track between Clonsilla and Connolly where trains reach a decent speed.

Colm Moore · 15-02-2013, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by karlr42

Why is it unmannable? No room for a station building?

There is room for a station building. They just aren't proposing one.

26-01-2013, 18:09	#1
drouse New to the board Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 19	Pelletstown (D7/15) station PP application DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL We Iarnród Éireann Intend to apply for: PERMISSION for development at this site: Pelletstown, Royal Canal Avenue, Dublin 7. The development will consist of: Construction of a new railway station incorporating, 2no 174m long x 3m wide passenger platforms either side of the Sligo to Dublin railway line. A footbridge spanning the railway connecting the proposed platforms, with 2no staircases and 2no ramps of a gradient of 1:20. Platforms to incorporate, lighting, CCTV, ticket vending machines, railings, seating, shelters, commercial advertising, driver operating monitors, public address, customer information signs, directional and station signage. Construction of a footbridge over the Royal Canal to provide access from Royal Canal Avenue. Construction of stepped and ramped access from Ashington Park. Installation of street lighting to footpaths extending from the proposed access at Ashington Park. Clearing of existing vegetation between the park and the railway. Partial demolition of the existing boundary wall and installation of new sections of boundary wall at the ends of the platform. Landscaping between the park and the rear of the proposed new platform. Installation of a dedicated pedestrian and cycle path across the park including disabled parking bays at Ashington Park. Installation of street lighting to bridge over the Royal Canal as well as the immediate vicinity of Royal Canal Avenue where required. Partial demolition of the existing boundary fence along the canal and installation of new sections of boundary fencing at the ends of the platform. Landscaping between the canal and the rear of the proposed new platform. Installation of an ESB kiosk at Royal Canal Avenue. Construction of a Telecoms Equipment Room at the eastern end of the proposed platforms with access road from Ratoath Road. The total works involved cover an area of approx. 2200 sq m of plan area, and approx 20 linear meters of street frontage. The Planning Application may be inspected or purchased at a fee not exceeding the reasonable cost of making a copy at the Offices of Dublin City Council during its public opening hours and a submission or observation in relation to the application may be made to the Authority in writing on payment of a prescribed fee within the period of 5 weeks beginning on the date of receipt by the Authority of the application. Posted: 24/01/2013

14-02-2013, 22:36	#6
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	The drawings still aren't on-line, so I took a look at them in the council offices today. This should give the general layout: http://www.dublincity.ie/LocationPub...tureid=2109/13 You may need to click on the "thumb tack" icon on the left hand side. Essentially, it is an unmanned station, with ticket barriers. Two platforms, a bridge and steps and long ramps to the bridge. There is a second bridge across the canal and a footpath/cyclepath from Ashington Avenue to the south entrance to the station. It will be about 1km from Ashtown and Broombridge stations and a few hundred metres west of Reilly's Bridge. The footbridge will be public - it will reduce the walking/cycling distance from Ashington Park to Royal Canal Park, Dublin Industrial Estate and Finglas by approximately 3km. Approximate location of proposed bridge over canal: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Ashing...,183.4,,0,4.75 Approximate location of start of footpath/cyclepath from Ashington Avenue to the south entrance to the station: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Ashing...51. 27,,0,6.3 Concerns would be that: * It will be unmanned and indeed unmannable - the fear it would turn into another Broombridge. * It makes no attempt to join with Dublin Bus routes 120 or 122. * The entrance to the south is across parkland for 150 metres. * I'm not certain the ramps 'work'. * The entrance to the north is relatively undeveloped. __________________ Last edited by Colm Moore : 14-02-2013 at 22:39.

14-02-2013, 23:22	#7
karlr42 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 340	Looks like that might generate a bunch of resident objections from within , can't say I blame them. Why is it unmannable? No room for a station building? I agree that's definitely a problem given the area. Also, it's kind of a shame, this will slow down trains a lot, it's placed on one of the few stretches of track between Clonsilla and Connolly where trains reach a decent speed. Last edited by karlr42 : 14-02-2013 at 23:27.

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26-01-2013, 21:32	#2
karlr42 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 340	Given that money has not been made available yet for the road overbridge in the vicinity, what are the chances of the money for this actually being stumped up any time soon?

29-01-2013, 16:16	#3
eugene Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 132	Update on Reillys Bridge here.. http://www.neighbours.ie/forums/show...rossing-update

02-02-2013, 22:35	#5
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	What's the source of funds for this project?