Redevelopment of Kent Station in Cork

Jamie2k9 · 21-02-2013, 15:37

Just after hearing that Irish Rail plan a redevelopment of Kent Station in Cork in the near future. Now the station is in need of it but is it really necessary given the company's financial situation and if its Irish Rail paying? should this not be spend else where in areas that are in serous need of it. Train maintenance would be once that comes to mind, repairing track problems, lifting TSR across the network and so on instead of paying for something that is needed but would get by without it.

The project is at design phase and a planning application in within 3 months.

Does anyone know know further details about the proposed works and cost involved.

comcor · 21-02-2013, 20:21

Or maybe spend it on Blarney and Kilbarry stations which might increase numbers into Kent.

As I understand it, the redevelopment is pretty minor, but does finally include an entrance on the quayside.

Inniskeen · 22-02-2013, 11:03

There were all sorts of Celtic era plans for Cork as well as Galway and Waterford.

Hard to see how major re-development could be justified in Cork at this point given that the existing station (while anything but perfect) clearly has more than ample capacity to handle traffic well in excess of current levels.

Colm Moore · 22-02-2013, 13:49

I don't know exactly what is proposed, but there is the problem that the station is surrounded by one-way streets

Kent Station, Lower Glanmire Road, Cork to St. Patrick's Street, Cork - 2.1km http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Low...sz=17&t=m&z=15

St. Patrick's Street, Cork to Kent Station, Lower Glanmire Road, Cork - 1km http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Mer...=prev&t=m&z=15

jacko · 22-02-2013, 13:53

was announced as part of a cork package last week

http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=723

nmagner · 08-03-2013, 21:16

I think it will be just more tinkering around at the periphiries of the station.

Goods · 09-09-2017, 09:43

Simply building at Kent station without designing a descent tram system in Cork means that the city will be allowed clog up like Dublin without a forward thinking solution to maintain Cork as a top city in Ireland. Now is the opportunity to ensure that the train network is linked to a Luas type system in the city. The developers won't want to hear this becaus they might lose some space but that's why we have public representatives to insist at this point before the huge opportunity is lost.

comcor · 11-09-2017, 10:55

Getting money for big spend capital projects is exceedingly difficult and a tram system in Cork is certainly not a top 5 priority. However, land should be set aside for an alignment. If nothing else, it can be put in place for bus access with trams added later.

Mark Gleeson · 15-09-2017, 09:08

Fantasy really

Given the size of Cork a bus option is likely to best, sadly large chunk of the West Cork railway has been built on which would have been ideal for a tram based system

comcor · 10-11-2017, 09:46

Apparently this will open next week.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went for November 14th when the network is on strike.

Jamie2k9 · 27-11-2017, 15:53

Irish Examiner saying it opens tomorrow.

21-02-2013, 15:37	#1
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Redevelopment of Kent Station in Cork Just after hearing that Irish Rail plan a redevelopment of Kent Station in Cork in the near future. Now the station is in need of it but is it really necessary given the company's financial situation and if its Irish Rail paying? should this not be spend else where in areas that are in serous need of it. Train maintenance would be once that comes to mind, repairing track problems, lifting TSR across the network and so on instead of paying for something that is needed but would get by without it. The project is at design phase and a planning application in within 3 months. Does anyone know know further details about the proposed works and cost involved.

22-02-2013, 13:49	#4
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I don't know exactly what is proposed, but there is the problem that the station is surrounded by one-way streets Kent Station, Lower Glanmire Road, Cork to St. Patrick's Street, Cork - 2.1km http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Low...sz=17&t=m&z=15 St. Patrick's Street, Cork to Kent Station, Lower Glanmire Road, Cork - 1km http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Mer...=prev&t=m&z=15 __________________

09-09-2017, 09:43	#7
Goods Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 117	No mention of tram Simply building at Kent station without designing a descent tram system in Cork means that the city will be allowed clog up like Dublin without a forward thinking solution to maintain Cork as a top city in Ireland. Now is the opportunity to ensure that the train network is linked to a Luas type system in the city. The developers won't want to hear this becaus they might lose some space but that's why we have public representatives to insist at this point before the huge opportunity is lost.

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Fantasy really Given the size of Cork a bus option is likely to best, sadly large chunk of the West Cork railway has been built on which would have been ideal for a tram based system __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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21-02-2013, 20:21	#2
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Or maybe spend it on Blarney and Kilbarry stations which might increase numbers into Kent. As I understand it, the redevelopment is pretty minor, but does finally include an entrance on the quayside.

22-02-2013, 11:03	#3
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	There were all sorts of Celtic era plans for Cork as well as Galway and Waterford. Hard to see how major re-development could be justified in Cork at this point given that the existing station (while anything but perfect) clearly has more than ample capacity to handle traffic well in excess of current levels.

22-02-2013, 13:53	#5
jacko Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 137	was announced as part of a cork package last week http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=723

08-03-2013, 21:16	#6
nmagner New to the board Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 3	I think it will be just more tinkering around at the periphiries of the station.

11-09-2017, 10:55	#8
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Getting money for big spend capital projects is exceedingly difficult and a tram system in Cork is certainly not a top 5 priority. However, land should be set aside for an alignment. If nothing else, it can be put in place for bus access with trams added later.

10-11-2017, 09:46	#10
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Apparently this will open next week. I wouldn't be surprised if they went for November 14th when the network is on strike.

27-11-2017, 15:53	#11
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Irish Examiner saying it opens tomorrow.