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02-06-2007, 10:36 | #1 | |
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[2-6-2007] 2 enterprise failures
Well nothing on the IE site, but Translink have this
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07-06-2007, 09:40 | #2 |
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Found this on CAF's website regarding NIR's new trains
Type of vehicle: Diesel unit basically consisting of three cars, and an intermediate car which may be added or removed to form units with 2 to 4 cars. The operator can create consists with different number of units to a maximum of 12 cars. Unit intended for local and regional services in Northern Ireland. The units are also designed to meet the requirements of the Railways of the Republic of Ireland as six of these trains will provide a cross border service between the cities of Belfast and Dublin. The units comply with British Railway Standards (RGS), this is a new standard related to interior shocks (AV/ST 9001), British legislation regarding safety (Safety Case) and accessibility for disabled persons Regards Sean |
07-06-2007, 09:53 | #3 |
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Only 6 of the 23 C3K sets comply with all Irish requirements, but all 23 are allowed to run to Dublin subject to a 23 year old understanding. Its all academic anyway since the exact same rules apply north and south
Its damn fine train and decimates the Enterprise point to point timings Best of all the nice people in Translink had the cop on to program the PIS system so when it does show up in Dublin it works perfectly |
08-06-2007, 10:26 | #4 |
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Could the 'Enterprise' (De Deitrichs) not be replaced by a small extra order of 22000 Mitsui DMUs ?
Can really see no advantage to it, as unlike the MK3s or CAF Intercity coaches they can't even do 200km/h! The DMUs would be at least capable of doing 100mph and have good accelleration and reliability. |
08-06-2007, 11:14 | #5 | |
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I think DMUs should not be used for long, prestigious routes. It is not much fun in first class having a diesel engine beneath you, vibrating away. Better to stick to loco hauled. I love the German loco hauled trains which move off with no noise at all. |
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10-06-2007, 17:22 | #6 |
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By an International comparison, Dublin to Belfast and Dublin to Cork are neither long distance, or prestigious on the basis of population. My personal feeling is that Iarnrod Eireann and Translink are watching developments in Britain in relation to their HST2 project. This is the likely replacement for the 201 Class locomotives in Push/Pull mode on both the Enterprise and Mk IV stock.
DMU's cover similar distances to cities with similar population levels throughout the European Union on a daily basis. They do the job, they are adequate, and most customers are perfectly happy with them. The only people who dislike them seem to be enthusiasts, although seating arrangements can be the biggest drawback on them. |
11-06-2007, 00:43 | #7 | |
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I've been on DMUs where you'd be hard pressed to tell there was an engine under the floor. The C3Ks aren't bad in this regard. Hopefully the 22Ks will be better. The German locos may be quiet, but that's because of they have wires overhead, not because they are loco hauled per say. If they were IC EMUs, I'm sure they'd be just as quiet. On that note, there would be a pretty strong argument for electrifying Dublin-Belfast. Not only is it a fairly modest distance, but there is commuter potential along the whole length of the line, with commuters into Belfast ant the northern end, local traffic between Newry, Dundalk and Drogheda which have been very local about stronger economic ties lately, and commuter traffic into Dublin. |
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11-06-2007, 16:57 | #8 |
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19:00 Dublin belfast?
I note the 16.10 from belfast to quote translink
Due to operational difficulties the 1610hrs service from Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly will be a non-Enterprise service i presume the 19:00 hours service will be this train also! |
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