Lack of heat on 29000s

John J · 30-09-2007, 19:51

I hate to say it, but the winter is coming around again, and with it the numbingly cold morning journeys on IE.
Is anything ever going to be done about this?

The 29000s seem to be particularly at fault. The other morning on the first train from Longford, the situation was so bad the driver apologised over the intercom, saying there was nothing he could do to adjust the temperature.

Is it too much to ask that trains ordered in the year 2005 would have some sort of heating facility - trains that cost hundreds of millions to the taxpayer?

We were told this problem would be sorted when the Cravens and Mark IIs were got rid of. It seems like it's actually got worse.

John Gormley can rant all he like, but the only reason I use train travel is because I have to.
Can you blame me when I have to step out of my warm-as-toast car at half six in the morning and step onto a freezing cold, painfully slow, woefully uncomfortable train?
In fact, maybe global warming is a good thing - it looks like it's the only way IE will ever manage to achieve a warm train in the winter.

Rant over...

al2637 · 30-09-2007, 21:12

The other side of the equation is when you get on a crush loaded train at Coolmine/Castleknock on a cold winters morning and there IS heating on full blast. Train becomes a sauna and everyone arrives into work drenched in sweat.... how much would it have cost to fit the trains with thermostats to keep the temperature constant, both in summer and winter?

Derek Wheeler · 01-10-2007, 22:21

I can only assume that this is an air conditioning issue and ajustments have not been made as we enter colder mornings and evenings.

Perhaps one of our Technical officers can shed some light on this particular issue?

Mark Gleeson · 01-10-2007, 22:28

29k has a thermostat, the settings are based on trial runs in the Summer of 2003, original the settings where unbearable in the Summer

Main problem is the doors in cold conditions heat just disappears out the door, red button will close the door

Obviously if everyone is wearing a Winter coat the default 18 degree setting isn't going to be nice

ThomasJ · 18-05-2008, 16:10

Am in coach 29217 on the 16:33 maynooth pearse and would you believe it, on this scorching day i cannot feel the air conditioning and the heating is on full whack!

Only in ireland!

30-09-2007, 19:51	#1
John J Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Longford Posts: 50	Lack of heat on 29000s I hate to say it, but the winter is coming around again, and with it the numbingly cold morning journeys on IE. Is anything ever going to be done about this? The 29000s seem to be particularly at fault. The other morning on the first train from Longford, the situation was so bad the driver apologised over the intercom, saying there was nothing he could do to adjust the temperature. Is it too much to ask that trains ordered in the year 2005 would have some sort of heating facility - trains that cost hundreds of millions to the taxpayer? We were told this problem would be sorted when the Cravens and Mark IIs were got rid of. It seems like it's actually got worse. John Gormley can rant all he like, but the only reason I use train travel is because I have to. Can you blame me when I have to step out of my warm-as-toast car at half six in the morning and step onto a freezing cold, painfully slow, woefully uncomfortable train? In fact, maybe global warming is a good thing - it looks like it's the only way IE will ever manage to achieve a warm train in the winter. Rant over...

01-10-2007, 22:28	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	29k has a thermostat, the settings are based on trial runs in the Summer of 2003, original the settings where unbearable in the Summer Main problem is the doors in cold conditions heat just disappears out the door, red button will close the door Obviously if everyone is wearing a Winter coat the default 18 degree setting isn't going to be nice __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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30-09-2007, 21:12	#2
al2637 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	The other side of the equation is when you get on a crush loaded train at Coolmine/Castleknock on a cold winters morning and there IS heating on full blast. Train becomes a sauna and everyone arrives into work drenched in sweat.... how much would it have cost to fit the trains with thermostats to keep the temperature constant, both in summer and winter?

01-10-2007, 22:21	#3
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	I can only assume that this is an air conditioning issue and ajustments have not been made as we enter colder mornings and evenings. Perhaps one of our Technical officers can shed some light on this particular issue?

18-05-2008, 16:10	#5
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Am in coach 29217 on the 16:33 maynooth pearse and would you believe it, on this scorching day i cannot feel the air conditioning and the heating is on full whack! Only in ireland!