Luas Red Line Disruption

Colm Moore · 19-03-2012, 01:54

Remind me why trams can't operate The Point-Connolly. If they can do it out of service, why not in service?

on the move · 19-03-2012, 03:09

Trams can't get to/from Red Cow HQ.

Given where the incident is, it looks like the service could run Citywest/Tallaght-Heuston. Why it isn't is unknown.

Inniskeen · 19-03-2012, 08:03

The track layout doesn't allow eastbound trams turn back at Heuston towards Saggart and Tallaght. Somewhat of a design flaw !

The location of electrical disconnects may also be a factor.

Seems no reason why services couldn't operate from the Point to Connolly and vice-versa. Both the track layout and electrical sections permit this. Indeed the service could probably run to Abbey Street although the lack of an eastbound signal towards Connolly might complicate matters somewhat.

Mark Gleeson · 19-03-2012, 08:22

Sadly the signalling arrangements at Connolly do not currently allow a shuttle to from the Point

Kilocharlie · 19-03-2012, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Sadly the signalling arrangements at Connolly do not currently allow a shuttle to from the Point

You mean they went to the great expense of putting in the track to allow Connolly-Point but didn't put in a means of operating the switches?

Trams can turn back at Abbey st and Smithfield but there are no obvious signals near the switches. Does the driver operate them manually?

Inniskeen · 19-03-2012, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

You mean they went to the great expense of putting in the track to allow Connolly-Point but didn't put in a means of operating the switches?

Trams can turn back at Abbey st and Smithfield but there are no obvious signals near the switches. Does the driver operate them manually?

The setup at Abbey Street is designed for turning eastbound trams back towards Heuston, but probably could be used to turnback towards the Point.

Didn't realise the Connolly area wasn't signalled for movements to/from the Point

bg07 · 19-03-2012, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Sadly the signalling arrangements at Connolly do not currently allow a shuttle to from the Point

So they went to trouble of putting in track to allow Connolly to The Point shuttles but didn't put in the required signals so the track could be used? That's sounds a bit of a waste

Mark Gleeson · 19-03-2012, 15:04

You can do Tallaght - Connolly - Point but you can't do the reverse

Apparently an upgrade is planned. Its typical of the poor thought in much of the Luas design, no thought in the design for how to cope with partial closures

Inniskeen · 19-03-2012, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

You can do Tallaght - Connolly - Point but you can't do the reverse

Apparently an upgrade is planned. Its typical of the poor thought in much of the Luas design, no thought in the design for how to cope with partial closures

DART isn't much better with a dis-functional layout at Malahide, a half-baked layout yet to be commissioned at Clongriffin and the recent removal of crossovers at Merrion and Dun Laoghaire.

Mark Gleeson · 19-03-2012, 22:53

The DART has massive redundancy compared to Luas, reversible signaling between Howth Junc and Dun Laoghaire (been wrong way numerous times) plus dual power feeds for all substations.

Colm Moore · 22-03-2012, 17:07

Buildings have been partially demolished: http://www.luas.ie/assets/graphics/R...igns/photo.JPG

Colm Moore · 26-03-2012, 17:05

http://www.luas.ie/sorry-and-thank-y...-patience.html

Quote:

Sorry and thank you for your patience

Luas would like to apologise to all our loyal customers for the recent disruption to service on the Luas Red Line. A major fire in the city centre damaged historic buildings adjacent to Luas tracks and it was not safe to operate Luas in the affected area.

Dublin City Council’s Buildings Department carried out extensive work on the damaged buildings to make the area safe and only then could we operate a full Red Line service.

Luas wishes to apologise to all Luas customers for this unprecedented service disruption.

In order to learn from this unexpected event we would like to get your opinionsand welcome your feedback. Please contact us at the following addresses:

Call and tell us your experience on Freephone 1800 300 604
Email info@luas.ie
Write to Veolia Transdev, Luas Depot, Red Cow, Clondalkin, Dublin 22
Finally! Tweet @Luas and tell us what you think?

We would also like to extend our gratitude to: Luas Staff, Luas Customers,Railway Procurement Agency, Dublin Bus & Dublin City Council.

on the move · 29-03-2012, 00:13

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We would also like to extend our gratitude to: Luas Staff, Luas Customers,Railway Procurement Agency, Dublin Bus & Dublin City Council.

What are the staff thanking themselves for?

Colm Moore · 29-03-2012, 05:30

The message is from Brian Barrington, MD of Veolia.

19-03-2012, 01:54	#1
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Luas Red Line Disruption Remind me why trams can't operate The Point-Connolly. If they can do it out of service, why not in service? __________________

19-03-2012, 03:09	#2
on the move Regular Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 176	Trams can't get to/from Red Cow HQ. Given where the incident is, it looks like the service could run Citywest/Tallaght-Heuston. Why it isn't is unknown. __________________ "We'd like to apologise for..."

19-03-2012, 08:22	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Sadly the signalling arrangements at Connolly do not currently allow a shuttle to from the Point __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

19-03-2012, 15:04	#8
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	You can do Tallaght - Connolly - Point but you can't do the reverse Apparently an upgrade is planned. Its typical of the poor thought in much of the Luas design, no thought in the design for how to cope with partial closures __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

19-03-2012, 22:53	#10
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The DART has massive redundancy compared to Luas, reversible signaling between Howth Junc and Dun Laoghaire (been wrong way numerous times) plus dual power feeds for all substations. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

19-03-2012, 08:03	#3
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	The track layout doesn't allow eastbound trams turn back at Heuston towards Saggart and Tallaght. Somewhat of a design flaw ! The location of electrical disconnects may also be a factor. Seems no reason why services couldn't operate from the Point to Connolly and vice-versa. Both the track layout and electrical sections permit this. Indeed the service could probably run to Abbey Street although the lack of an eastbound signal towards Connolly might complicate matters somewhat.

22-03-2012, 17:07	#11
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Buildings have been partially demolished: http://www.luas.ie/assets/graphics/R...igns/photo.JPG __________________

29-03-2012, 05:30	#14
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	The message is from Brian Barrington, MD of Veolia. __________________

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