[12-2-2007] Heuston

Mark Gleeson · 12-02-2007, 18:06

Why does everything break in Sallins

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Delays to services from Heuston by Corporate Communications

12TH FEBRUARY 2007 - 17.25HRS

Due to a locomotive fault on the 16.25hrs Heuston to Waterford service at Sallins, services departing Heuston Station are operating up to 40 minutes late.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for the inconvenience caused.

Celbridge traveller · 12-02-2007, 19:13

I'm just a paying commuter who has missed a meeting - know nothing about locomotives - but one would have to wonder at the adequacy of pre-journey locomotive inspection protocols if IE have them- if IE do not have any, they should have them and if they do have them they clearly are not fit for purpose!

Mark Gleeson · 12-02-2007, 19:41

Word coming in suggests a possible ground relay at fault, fairly notorious issue with the 071 class locomotives, it would trip out the traction system and halt the train, restarting it possible but it will trip again. Soggy batteries will get you eventually and it won't restart. If the relay trips more than 3 times in 30 minutes it locks it out and you are stuck

Not the kind of thing you would notice on a visual inspection

Driver do a basic check on fuel levels, brakes, lights, radio, DSD and cab signalling before the locomotive goes into service

Hazelhatch Sallins seems to be a bermuda triangle of railways you enter but may never leave

The notice was fairly useless since it didn't give specifics on any train

portarlington_user · 13-02-2007, 09:24

The 16:50 had no announcements or explanations or God forbid any apologies for the delay, found out from a friend on another train what was going on

2Funki4Wheelz · 13-02-2007, 09:51

The 18:05 pulled out on time so it could go nowhere and sit in Inchicore - why bother - why not let people know so they can decide whether to bother getting on the train or not? I got in about 45 mins late, starving! I would have got food in Heuston and got a later train if they'd let us know before we headed off.

There was no announcement for about 20mins and the driver said he didn't know when we'd get moving. How does everything take so long to be communicated?

Mark Gleeson · 13-02-2007, 09:55

Well someone in charge last night decided to clear all trains out of Heuston to free up platforms, platform 5 scenario again

There was no communication to train staff on the issue

2Funki4Wheelz · 13-02-2007, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

There was no communication to train staff on the issue

Sure why tell them, they'll figure it out from the red signals

kevin · 13-02-2007, 13:38

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Originally Posted by 2Funki4Wheelz

Sure why tell them, they'll figure it out from the red signals

18:25 Heuston-Waterford. "Apologies for the late arival [at athy], this was due to signals".

Factual and concise. What more do you want?

kevin

Mark Gleeson · 13-02-2007, 13:46

Nearly all rail delays will manifest themselves as being stuck at a signal, why you are at the signal is the question

12-02-2007, 19:13	#2
Celbridge traveller New to the board Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15	Locomotive Breakdown - again I'm just a paying commuter who has missed a meeting - know nothing about locomotives - but one would have to wonder at the adequacy of pre-journey locomotive inspection protocols if IE have them- if IE do not have any, they should have them and if they do have them they clearly are not fit for purpose!

12-02-2007, 19:41	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Word coming in suggests a possible ground relay at fault, fairly notorious issue with the 071 class locomotives, it would trip out the traction system and halt the train, restarting it possible but it will trip again. Soggy batteries will get you eventually and it won't restart. If the relay trips more than 3 times in 30 minutes it locks it out and you are stuck Not the kind of thing you would notice on a visual inspection Driver do a basic check on fuel levels, brakes, lights, radio, DSD and cab signalling before the locomotive goes into service Hazelhatch Sallins seems to be a bermuda triangle of railways you enter but may never leave The notice was fairly useless since it didn't give specifics on any train Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 12-02-2007 at 22:04.

13-02-2007, 09:51	#5
2Funki4Wheelz Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portarlington Posts: 397	The 18:05 pulled out on time so it could go nowhere and sit in Inchicore - why bother - why not let people know so they can decide whether to bother getting on the train or not? I got in about 45 mins late, starving! I would have got food in Heuston and got a later train if they'd let us know before we headed off. There was no announcement for about 20mins and the driver said he didn't know when we'd get moving. How does everything take so long to be communicated? __________________ Customer Service costs nothing...

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13-02-2007, 09:24	#4
portarlington_user Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portarlington Posts: 51	The 16:50 had no announcements or explanations or God forbid any apologies for the delay, found out from a friend on another train what was going on

13-02-2007, 09:55	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Well someone in charge last night decided to clear all trains out of Heuston to free up platforms, platform 5 scenario again There was no communication to train staff on the issue

13-02-2007, 13:46	#9
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Nearly all rail delays will manifest themselves as being stuck at a signal, why you are at the signal is the question