Maynooth line timetable dec 2006

ThomasJ · 16-10-2006, 18:14

Hi guys Just wondering is there any news on additional maynooth or longford services in the december 2006? the morning services really are bad at the moment this morning the 7.57 ex coolmine was worst than usual and this is a nightmare train. Hopefully a gap or two can be filled. A few extra off peak wouldnt go astray either. Any word on off peak or sunday which they need to add a few.

Mark Gleeson · 16-10-2006, 18:59

No chance in the morning, the afternoon gap most likely will stay they are constrained by rolling stock

Sunday hasn't been a real success Maynooth line compared to Drogheda, Kildare line is getting a pitiful Sunday service, IE don't care about Sunday

The timetable will be finalised in the next 2 weeks, what I've seen doesn't look good for all concerned

Mark Hennessy · 16-10-2006, 21:03

Wiil next years timetable not take the docklands station into account? ie more services?

ThomasJ · 16-10-2006, 21:22

Cheers for that mark maybe there might be extra services when spencer dock opens i cant see how phoenix park station can open with the current situation the morning situation really is bad will the last service on a sunday still be 6.30 and on a weeknight still 10.30

John J · 17-10-2006, 20:25

So no early service for Sligo customers - and Longford / Mullingar commuters will still have to stop at every station in the morning?
No surprises there then.

Keep the info rolling please - I'm considering renting in Dublin this year instead of the annual ticket, as I've had my fill of commuting - any timetable info could swing the vote.

James Shields · 18-10-2006, 20:55

As far as I know, Docklands station comes onstream in May 2007. I'm not sure why, as the station seems to be coming together nicely. The buiilding looks like it could easily be ready in time for the December timetable.

I'm guessing the problem is signalling and/or rolling stock. We know it would be possible to get extra trains into Connolly if the stock was available.

With the arrival of the IC DMUs, some of the commuter railcars should become available for commuters again. I can't see this leading for more than a few extra peak time services on each of the main commuter routes. The big change probably won't happen until the Maynooth line is electrified and you get the DART.

colmoc · 19-10-2006, 10:07

So when does the dartifiaction of the maynooth line occur,
I'm looking at buying a house on this line and timelines, freaquency, sunday improvements, late night early morning improvements would be nice to know.
I presume it is years away as with everything else

ThomasJ · 19-10-2006, 20:43

There is a letter on joan burtons website in which michael power responded to joan burtons letter re. The 'appaling delays' on monday and tuesday. In the latter half of the letter mr power states that there will be additional services as well as some service enhancements. He said in the letter that the plans are at final stage and will be available shortly

Mark Gleeson · 19-10-2006, 20:49

In March and given zero extra coaches I'd love to see how it will be done

ThomasJ · 19-10-2006, 21:20

Sorry i should have said that he said that spencer dock would be open in march

sean · 20-10-2006, 12:18

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

In March and given zero extra coaches I'd love to see how it will be done

they could start by giving the Mk2d a final overhaul and putting them back on the IC lines out of Connolly, and giving the commuter trains to the commuters ...

comcor · 20-10-2006, 13:43

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Originally Posted by sean

they could start by giving the Mk2d a final overhaul and putting them back on the IC lines out of Connolly, and giving the commuter trains to the commuters ...

And a few other places.

Mallow-Killarney/Tralee
Limerick-Limerick Junction.

Mallow-Tralee is actually a very long journey to be stuck on a commuter rail car. It would be doing the users of both services a favour.

James Shields · 21-10-2006, 13:38

I doubt any Mk2s will be coming back into service, but it's just possible that some of the Mk3s from the Cork line will allow IE to scrounge a railcar or two for a token service to Spencer Dock.

As far as I know the IC DMUs will start arriving in mid 2007, and barring further industrial action, should enter service towards the end of the year. As far as I know the first lines to get them are Sligo and Roslare, which should free up about 24 commuter coaches for other purposes.

This would suggest that the December 2007 timetable will be the first time that the Docklands station sees significant use.

It is starting to look quite impressive, though.

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Thomas J Stamp · 21-10-2006, 19:46

The new IC railcars are due to hit the December 2007 timetable, now given what happend with the CDE's i'd susupect they wont go into service next year at all.

Sligo will definitly get them, more than likely aiing for December next year, Rosslare will not get them, ever, from what I know.

As for Mk3's, those being taken off Cork are going to the Limerick service which is going every two hours this December and also to Galway apart from the City Golds, which we expect to see heading to the Belfast line.

Mk2ds - the entire Connolly collection is now running from Heuston, and you'll have noticed a lot of carraiges hanging around there and Inchicore. In theory they could go back to the sligo service or be used as back up for failed enterprise services but I fell the decision is made, within 18 months they'll be gone.

The slio commuter railcar should go to Kildare/Maynooth/Pace services.

If you llive in Maynooth or Leixlip dont forget the 66X Bus is a very very good service.

ThomasJ · 24-10-2006, 22:19

Just wondering from what you are seeing will off peak remain the same particulary the last train during the week and on a sunday

Mark Hennessy · 24-10-2006, 22:28

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Just wondering from what you are seeing will off peak remain the same particulary the last train during the week

Yeah the last train at 2230 is consistly very busy Mon-Fri, I would love a train around 23 - 23:15 but I doubt we will get it in this timetable.

ThomasJ · 24-10-2006, 23:15

It really is mad that there cant be a later train. There was a suggestion that there should be a last train at 11.00-11.15 to sit in maynooth overnight an earlier train is needed as the current 1st train in the morning from maynooth is one of the worst

James Shields · 24-10-2006, 23:46

The 23:20 to Drogheda has been quite successful, especially on Thurs/Fri/Sat. I have on occasion been on this train and there's been standing room only. I expect there would be plenty of demand for a similar service to Maynooth. There shouldn't be any problem with rolling stock at that time, but the problem may be where the trains need to be for the morning rush, but having the train stay inMaynooth for the first morning train seems sensible.

ThomasJ · 08-11-2006, 17:27

Michael power of iarnrod eireann was present at a local dublin 15 transport meeting last night organised by the local labour td joan burton. He mentioned there was extra off peak amd a late night service and additional sunday services for maynooth in the new mid january timetable he also mentioned 12th march as opening date of docklands station with additional trains between clonsilla and dockland

Mark Gleeson · 08-11-2006, 17:36

He didn't tell you the Clonsilla Docklands service will be run by a 2 coach railcar which should be serious fun

Bare in mind the timetable has been put on hold till at least Jan 13, may be delayed even further beyond that so no later night pints and train home over Christmas

16-10-2006, 18:14	#1
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Maynooth line timetable dec 2006 Hi guys Just wondering is there any news on additional maynooth or longford services in the december 2006? the morning services really are bad at the moment this morning the 7.57 ex coolmine was worst than usual and this is a nightmare train. Hopefully a gap or two can be filled. A few extra off peak wouldnt go astray either. Any word on off peak or sunday which they need to add a few.

16-10-2006, 21:22	#4
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Cheers for that mark maybe there might be extra services when spencer dock opens i cant see how phoenix park station can open with the current situation the morning situation really is bad will the last service on a sunday still be 6.30 and on a weeknight still 10.30 Last edited by ThomasJ : 16-10-2006 at 21:27.

19-10-2006, 20:43	#8
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Maynooth line There is a letter on joan burtons website in which michael power responded to joan burtons letter re. The 'appaling delays' on monday and tuesday. In the latter half of the letter mr power states that there will be additional services as well as some service enhancements. He said in the letter that the plans are at final stage and will be available shortly

21-10-2006, 19:46	#14
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	The new IC railcars are due to hit the December 2007 timetable, now given what happend with the CDE's i'd susupect they wont go into service next year at all. Sligo will definitly get them, more than likely aiing for December next year, Rosslare will not get them, ever, from what I know. As for Mk3's, those being taken off Cork are going to the Limerick service which is going every two hours this December and also to Galway apart from the City Golds, which we expect to see heading to the Belfast line. Mk2ds - the entire Connolly collection is now running from Heuston, and you'll have noticed a lot of carraiges hanging around there and Inchicore. In theory they could go back to the sligo service or be used as back up for failed enterprise services but I fell the decision is made, within 18 months they'll be gone. The slio commuter railcar should go to Kildare/Maynooth/Pace services. If you llive in Maynooth or Leixlip dont forget the 66X Bus is a very very good service. __________________ We are the passengers

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16-10-2006, 18:59	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	No chance in the morning, the afternoon gap most likely will stay they are constrained by rolling stock Sunday hasn't been a real success Maynooth line compared to Drogheda, Kildare line is getting a pitiful Sunday service, IE don't care about Sunday The timetable will be finalised in the next 2 weeks, what I've seen doesn't look good for all concerned

16-10-2006, 21:03	#3
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	Wiil next years timetable not take the docklands station into account? ie more services?

17-10-2006, 20:25	#5
John J Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Longford Posts: 50	So no early service for Sligo customers - and Longford / Mullingar commuters will still have to stop at every station in the morning? No surprises there then. Keep the info rolling please - I'm considering renting in Dublin this year instead of the annual ticket, as I've had my fill of commuting - any timetable info could swing the vote.

18-10-2006, 20:55	#6
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	As far as I know, Docklands station comes onstream in May 2007. I'm not sure why, as the station seems to be coming together nicely. The buiilding looks like it could easily be ready in time for the December timetable. I'm guessing the problem is signalling and/or rolling stock. We know it would be possible to get extra trains into Connolly if the stock was available. With the arrival of the IC DMUs, some of the commuter railcars should become available for commuters again. I can't see this leading for more than a few extra peak time services on each of the main commuter routes. The big change probably won't happen until the Maynooth line is electrified and you get the DART.

19-10-2006, 10:07	#7
colmoc Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 140	So when does the dartifiaction of the maynooth line occur, I'm looking at buying a house on this line and timelines, freaquency, sunday improvements, late night early morning improvements would be nice to know. I presume it is years away as with everything else

19-10-2006, 20:49	#9
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	In March and given zero extra coaches I'd love to see how it will be done

19-10-2006, 21:20	#10
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Sorry i should have said that he said that spencer dock would be open in march

21-10-2006, 13:38	#13
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	I doubt any Mk2s will be coming back into service, but it's just possible that some of the Mk3s from the Cork line will allow IE to scrounge a railcar or two for a token service to Spencer Dock. As far as I know the IC DMUs will start arriving in mid 2007, and barring further industrial action, should enter service towards the end of the year. As far as I know the first lines to get them are Sligo and Roslare, which should free up about 24 commuter coaches for other purposes. This would suggest that the December 2007 timetable will be the first time that the Docklands station sees significant use. It is starting to look quite impressive, though.

24-10-2006, 22:19	#15
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Just wondering from what you are seeing will off peak remain the same particulary the last train during the week and on a sunday

24-10-2006, 23:15	#17
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	It really is mad that there cant be a later train. There was a suggestion that there should be a last train at 11.00-11.15 to sit in maynooth overnight an earlier train is needed as the current 1st train in the morning from maynooth is one of the worst

24-10-2006, 23:46	#18
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	The 23:20 to Drogheda has been quite successful, especially on Thurs/Fri/Sat. I have on occasion been on this train and there's been standing room only. I expect there would be plenty of demand for a similar service to Maynooth. There shouldn't be any problem with rolling stock at that time, but the problem may be where the trains need to be for the morning rush, but having the train stay inMaynooth for the first morning train seems sensible.

08-11-2006, 17:27	#19
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Michael power of iarnrod eireann was present at a local dublin 15 transport meeting last night organised by the local labour td joan burton. He mentioned there was extra off peak amd a late night service and additional sunday services for maynooth in the new mid january timetable he also mentioned 12th march as opening date of docklands station with additional trains between clonsilla and dockland

08-11-2006, 17:36	#20
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	He didn't tell you the Clonsilla Docklands service will be run by a 2 coach railcar which should be serious fun Bare in mind the timetable has been put on hold till at least Jan 13, may be delayed even further beyond that so no later night pints and train home over Christmas