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Mark Gleeson · 20-07-2006, 12:47

Anyone fancy the 17:13 Pearse Dundalk tonight, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, its its hay day without air conditioning it was a mobile medical experiment in stamina how long can you stand in 30+ degrees

Safety is the key concern at all times it would be fairly trivial to construct a list of no go trains where crowding is such that even if someone did offer you a seat you still have a 8-10 foot wall of people to push through. It is a miracle that no one has been seriously injured yet, statistically we are overdue an accident, IE know that.

We have a fairly unique situation in Dublin where heavy crush loading is practice not a rare occurance, the busiest train in the UK takes only 1200 (12 coaches with first class), in Dublin there would be upwards of 10 trains each day that break 1200, the 8:08 Malahide to Dun Laoghaire between Connolly and Tara Street loads to 1400 ish on a bad day.

We have to be realistic the rush hour is a no go for anyone who shouldn't be left in a stressful situation or left standing for a long period of time that covers pregnant women through to the elderly. The fact crowding is so bad is something we can beat IE with

20-07-2006, 12:47	#24
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Anyone fancy the 17:13 Pearse Dundalk tonight, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, its its hay day without air conditioning it was a mobile medical experiment in stamina how long can you stand in 30+ degrees Safety is the key concern at all times it would be fairly trivial to construct a list of no go trains where crowding is such that even if someone did offer you a seat you still have a 8-10 foot wall of people to push through. It is a miracle that no one has been seriously injured yet, statistically we are overdue an accident, IE know that. We have a fairly unique situation in Dublin where heavy crush loading is practice not a rare occurance, the busiest train in the UK takes only 1200 (12 coaches with first class), in Dublin there would be upwards of 10 trains each day that break 1200, the 8:08 Malahide to Dun Laoghaire between Connolly and Tara Street loads to 1400 ish on a bad day. We have to be realistic the rush hour is a no go for anyone who shouldn't be left in a stressful situation or left standing for a long period of time that covers pregnant women through to the elderly. The fact crowding is so bad is something we can beat IE with Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 20-07-2006 at 12:50.