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Derek Wheeler · 20-09-2006, 22:59

While this IE endeavour sounds good, I fear its just an attempt to stem any form of real action under the guise of looking like they care.

Mark G and I went up north over the summer and seen the translink posters for their user groups (that have been running for a while now). I subsequently got in touch with reps from the Larne line user group and they told me that an independent user group had been established due to Translinks complete inertia in relation to the group they created. Nothing was actually being done.

It is safe to assume that any similar iniative by IE would yield the same results. Its somewhat perverse, that a well known representation body like P11 has not been contacted in relation to this. However, we have already submitted our intent to be involved and would encourage anyone on the lines mentioned, to do likewise.

The RPA actively engage with P11. The DOT actively engage with P11. The Railway Safety Commission actively engage with P11. (all mentioned, initiate contact without prompting and on the basis of our proven role in the area of rail transport) We are even approached by transport related bodies that we wouldn't even begin to know existed. (see european survey thread) But IE continue to distance themselves.(Invitations to ride on a new train don't count) Longterm this will damage IE far more than P11

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Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	While this IE endeavour sounds good, I fear its just an attempt to stem any form of real action under the guise of looking like they care. Mark G and I went up north over the summer and seen the translink posters for their user groups (that have been running for a while now). I subsequently got in touch with reps from the Larne line user group and they told me that an independent user group had been established due to Translinks complete inertia in relation to the group they created. Nothing was actually being done. It is safe to assume that any similar iniative by IE would yield the same results. Its somewhat perverse, that a well known representation body like P11 has not been contacted in relation to this. However, we have already submitted our intent to be involved and would encourage anyone on the lines mentioned, to do likewise. The RPA actively engage with P11. The DOT actively engage with P11. The Railway Safety Commission actively engage with P11. (all mentioned, initiate contact without prompting and on the basis of our proven role in the area of rail transport) We are even approached by transport related bodies that we wouldn't even begin to know existed. (see european survey thread) But IE continue to distance themselves.(Invitations to ride on a new train don't count) Longterm this will damage IE far more than P11 Last edited by Derek Wheeler : 20-09-2006 at 23:02.