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Jamie2k9 21-08-2018 22:08

New Timetable from 9 September.
 
07.10 ex Waterford scheduled to take 5 minutes longer with extra stop at Muine Bheag. A few months ago they were lobbied to stop the train so clearly a TD/Councillor have gotten onto them to made it happen. They may as well add Thomastown and Kilkenny next because its guaranteed to happen now. The change is now live.

They confirmed it a few months ago. Getting over 700 names is great yet only 130 used it daily.

https://kclr96fm.com/bagenalstown-is...o-campaigners/

Now if it was the 06.15 ex Cork wonder how accommodating they would be...

Instead of fixing schedules they are adding an extra minute or two on lots of services as well as the 10 minute DART from 9/9.

ACustomer 22-08-2018 08:44

If we had a transport minister who was focused on strategic issues such as developing fast competitive services to cities scheduled for major development such as Waterford (see Building Ireland) then this nonsense wold not be allowed. This is another example of Sandyford Garda station syndrome.

I doubt if the Bagnealstown stop will deliver even in political terms.

ThomasJ 22-08-2018 08:50

Most Sligo trains, inbound and outbound will serve drumcondra in the new timetable .

Last departure from Connolly will be at 19.15

ACustomer 22-08-2018 08:55

Drumcondra? Is Bertie making a comeback?

James Howard 22-08-2018 08:58

I had a look for the timetable on the Irish Rail site but couldn't find it. Is it anywhere online? It seems to be loaded in the journey planner but the Longford commuter trains aren't appearing.

Drumcondra seems like an odd extra stop. Broombridge would seem like a more obvious choice for an extra stop with the Luas there now.

ThomasJ 22-08-2018 09:02

Only the Sligo intercitys are online ATM

It's strange alright , I would have thought that Broombridge would be a better option . The cynic in me says it's linked to PPT.

Ireland trains 22-08-2018 11:44

Greystones to connolly intercity service now takes an hour but is faster south of greystones to make up for the time.
2 morning trains now also call at grand canal dock.

ACustomer 22-08-2018 15:59

I haven't had time to do a comprehensive trawl but some of the IE online PDF timetables have Dec 8th as the expiry date (e.g. Waterford and Westport/Ballina routes). I thought Sept 8th was the change date. What is going on? Can IE get anything right?

Edit: the PDF gives validity from 10/12/2017, but the web pate has valid until Dec 8th (year unspecified). What sort of time-warp do IE people live in?

Jamie2k9 22-08-2018 17:02

Thing with the 07.10 is since they added Newbridge (they gave 1 minute extra) punctuality has been poor ever since. It used to always arrive on time now its regularly a few minutes late. This stop catering for what may 1 or 2 people is ridiculous.

They then add an extra minute to all Sunday services ex Waterford, yes is reality is nothing really but why? All the services for the most part complete the journey ahead of current schedules.

On time performance has slipped every single period this year over 2017 but they are not addressing the problem services at all i.e Fridays

Jamie2k9 30-08-2018 12:20

What a mess

http://www.irishrail.ie/news/timetab...ber-2018#Sligo

Mark Gleeson 30-08-2018 12:49

The commuter services terminating at Connolly at weekends is forward planning given Pearse will be closed many weekends to allow the roof to be replaced

ThomasJ 30-08-2018 13:01

An absolute joke of a timetable

berneyarms 30-08-2018 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 79616)
An absolute joke of a timetable

It might help if you explained exactly why you think that?

Jamie2k9 30-08-2018 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 79615)
The commuter services terminating at Connolly at weekends is forward planning given Pearse will be closed many weekends to allow the roof to be replaced

I suspect it will become permanent and include weekdays both peak/off peak unless they have plans to minimise disruption at some point.

Wheel slip season will be fun!!!!

ThomasJ 30-08-2018 17:16

According to
http://www.irishrail.ie/media/14_m3_...longford_1.pdf

Maynooth line services are going from GCD weekends? :confused:

Underground 30-08-2018 17:36

When is the timetable with increased off-peak frequency and later trains on Sundays on the Maynooth line supposed to start? Nothing really new in that one apart from a lot more trains going to/from GCD.

Mickey H 03-09-2018 11:28

I take it the largest DART train will now be 4 car with perhaps even 2 car 8100s running about?

berneyarms 03-09-2018 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey H (Post 79621)
I take it the largest DART train will now be 4 car with perhaps even 2 car 8100s running about?

Not at all. You’re vastly overestimating the rolling stock requirements.

Most will still be 6 or 8 car.

Underground 04-09-2018 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 79619)
According to
http://www.irishrail.ie/media/14_m3_...longford_1.pdf

Maynooth line services are going from GCD weekends? :confused:

Nope.

Quote:

Some off-peak weekday services and all weekend services will operate between Dublin Connolly and Maynooth only, instead of Dublin Pearse

Inniskeen 04-09-2018 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by berneyarms (Post 79617)
It might help if you explained exactly why you think that?

I wouldn't call it a joke, I would call it ill advised and impractical and significantly less robust than the current timetable. It achieves very little other than unneeded additional off peak DART frequency. The following are the issues I see

1) Reduced turnaround at Greystones, hence less reliability at that end.

2) More DART sets required, hence some trains will be shorter during the peak period.

3) Little increase in peak DART capacity due to reduced train sizes.

4) Even further increases in journey time for all, but particularly longer distance commuters and Intercity travellers.

5) Major deterioration in weekend commuter services for passengers traveling to Tara Street and Pearse form northern & western lines.

6) Operating margins reduced substantially at Howth Junction, Clongriffin, Malahide, Skerries and Balbriggan.

7) Belfast services unchanged on paper but many arrivals at Connolly based on fantasy two minute headways which are not deliverable in the context of current speed limits and signal spacing.

6) Existing morning and evening peak congestion issues extended throughout the day, particularly at Malahide & Howth Junction.

The whole timetable is predicated on delivering an unnecessary and highly disruptive fixed interval 10 minute off-peak DART service without providing the infrastructure necessary to deliver it in a reliable and robust fashion.

While people on forums like this may be aware that there is a new timetable, I strongly suspect the majority of regular passengers are not. Given the extraordinarily short-notice and minimal publicity, some people are going to get a seriously unpleasant surprise next Monday. Barry Kenny is going to have a very busy week !


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