17.25 Connolly to Gorey
 

This train was late again last night. Lately it has been getting to the stage where you are pleasantly surprised if it is actually on time!

From last Thursday to this Thursday it has been late 3 or 4 times in the evening. I am seriously considering whether to stop using this train. It's no joke to rush from work in the evening to the station only to find that you have to stand around waiting for the late train.

I was on the 17.25 last night. On asking why the train was late I was told the train was delayed at Wicklow on its inbound service. The cause was a child had ran away from home the train was searched and the child was taken off the train. It then lost its slot out of Bray.

Ed

Morgase, Believe me I know what you mean. I have considered driving but the traffic out of Dublin at that hour. I arrived back in Gorey one evening after leaving Dublin at 19:35 and I left at 17:15. MARK - This one is for you, The current timetable stands at 17:05(DART),17:14(DART),17:25(GOREY),17:29(DART) now the 17:05 arrives in Bray 17:52 thats fine. The 17:14 DART that arrvives at Dun Laoghaire 17:41 and arrives Dalkey 17:49 now the Gorey train arrives Dun Laoghaire at 17:48 now why cant the DART travel between Dun Laoghaire and Dalkey slowly that will give the Gorey time to travel on the wrong track from Dun Laoghaire to Dalkey and cut in the right track and travel to Bray arriving Bray at 18:00. The 17:35 Bray/Longford arrives Dalkey at 17:45 at that stage the Gorey train will be travelling on the wrong track to Dalkey and if the Longford commuter was 17:45 instead of 17:35 and put the DART 17:50 instead of 17:40 then when Longford Commuter stops at Dalkey the Gorey train would have passed and followed by the DART train.. It will save the Gorey train in around 10minutes. It takes from Wicklow to Rathdrum 13mins knock off 1minute and Rathdrum to Arklow knock off 3mins it does not take 18minutes and Arklow to Gorey knock off2mins. Arriving Gorey at 19:05 saving 15mins. Would it work?

Can't be done

Well worth a try, Cheers Mark.

I would to see the Rosslare Route times reduced by at least 20/25mins. I think after Bray the Rosslare/Gorey services crawl along to Connolly and vis-a-versa. Is there no way the times from Bray to Connoly could get reduced even 10mins.

This was late yet again yesterday. I checked the Irish Rail website before I left work and there were "no travel alerts". When I arrived the station 10 minutes later the train was shown to be 25 minutes late.

What is the point of a travel alerts section if it is never updated?

25 mins, Its alot to be fair.

How many times has the Gorey Service been late. 25mins is alot was there any good reason given by the platform announcements Morgase?

It's always the same Pierce, there is an announcement that there are operational problems or something to that effect.

It was on time last night, joy of joys, so I am expecting it to be late the rest of the week as that is the usual story!

i used to hate hearing the excuse of "due to the late arrival of an incoming train at" it was heard alot but even though it seems to occur alot more with say for example 17.25 delayed because of it arriving late at maynooth, the excuse we seem to hear these days is "operational problems" :confused: now that announcement i cant stand

Sorry for jumping on you both, But what time do you arrive at your station. If the train arrives 25mins late does the train catch up for lost time or does it arrive over the 25mins?

If the gorey train is late do they not send DARTs (that are on time) ahead of them affecting the path of the gorey train and the time it takes and restricts the possabilty of it making up time.

DART's are sent out ahead to keep things moving

yes, but they have been known to pull the Dart in between Pearse and GCD and let the Gorey train past (its rare, but it happened 2 weeks ago - I was on the Dart and wasn't particularly happy about it).

I only go as far as Greystones but I suspect there is scope for the train to make up time between there and Gorey.

Right thing to do.

But am just wondering though there is a DART to Greystones around 17:40. If that was to go ahead of the Gorey train, is there a siding at Greystones for the DART to park or does the Gorey train have to wait at Bray until the DART returns from the single track area in greystones?

If it is badly late it normally follows the Greystones train out, Greystones has two platforms and a siding so both trains can be there at the same time. There is enough of a gap so that the train after the Greystones one isn't delayed by the Gorey train

Signalling thankfully allows two trains travelling in the same direction around Bray head so the two trains arrive Greystones one after the other

On rare occasions you can get pulled over at Grand Canal Dock to allow the train through but that normally is reserved for the evening train to Rosslare

That clears it up, thanks Mark. I haven't been out in Greystones in a very long time we are talking about ten to fifteen years and it was a sunday and I had just missed a Dublin bound train and there were only three trains, if any on the sunday heading each way. Think it was single track at the station that time.

It often makes up time between Greystones and Gorey. Not the full 25 minutes mind you.

How late does a train have to be before passangers are entitled to a refund?

Ed

For a partial refund, an hour, except on the Enterprise when it is half an hour. After 2 hours (90 minutes on the Enterprise) it is a full refund. Note that all these refunds are in Iarnród Éireann vouchers and apply only to the part of your ticket that you used on that journey, so if you are 1 hour 50 late in on a standard €61 Dublin-Cork ticket, €15.25 in vouchers is all you're entitled to, and you have to submit a claim form in triplicate.

If you bought online you may be able to get a refund to your credit card in the event of a 100% refund, still you can't apply online for the refund

Refunds come in 1 euro denominations

IE will be legally required to issue the refund in money form under upcoming legislation

Since IE have the forms online now (well hidden) the triplicate thing is dead

Overcrowding on the 1725 Connolly Enniscorthy
 

I have travelled home on the 17.25 service every night this week and the extended service is now more crowded than ever.

Monday and Wednesday the train only had 4 carrages and people were still standing after Rathdrum. Even on Tuesday when 6 carrages operated the service there was a lot more standing after Kilcoole and even after Wicklow people had to stand.

There seems to be a good 40 to 50 passangers on the train when it leaves Gorey for Enniscorthy. IE need to make the train 8 carrages or introduce the 16.40 now.

Ed

can all the platforms take 8 carriages?

usually there are seats available from Greystones onwards (assuming 6 carriages).

EDIT - "really should be a member" eh?

I think it's 6 cars, and i'm presuming that that has been resolved with all stations on the gorey/rosslare line and that there are no stations with platforms for four-cars resulting in people having to move to the top of the train.

TBH with the standing on the 17:25, i've seen alot worst, (even with eight carriage trains) there are maynooth and Drogheda trains that need the extra carriages alot more urgently, got the 19:00 pearse maynooth at connolly (4 car) and barely got inside the door!.

I thought that with the 17:25 being a commuter train that you weren't garaunteed a seat regardless of origin, destination or stage that a train arrives in. Look at Drogheda and Dundalk!

It just proves that there is a demand behond Gorey. I travelled on the 17:25 Enniscorthy on Monday and it was packed to the limit. I was shoved into the door as with others. I was standing till Wicklow but there was about 6people still standing after that till Rathdrum. The train was a 29000 set it just said "This train is for Enniscorthy" not calling at stations along the route. No platform announcement saying passengers for Wexford etc.. change at Enniscorthy. When they were making the platfroms longer they should have made it to an 8car length or the new 22k with 6cars to that length, Not to 6car commuter lengths!!

All the stations (except possibly Kilcoole and Rosslare Strand) have at least one platform long enough to take an 8-car 2X00.

Now whether the railcars are there to run that level of service is another matter.

Wexford I think has the biggest platform in length.

The new intercity railcars have what is known as selective door opening so only the doors at a platform can be opened, none of the suburban fleet are so fitted

Issues only at Rathdrum really with platforms

There is no problem once the train runs at 6 coach length, in comparison to Maynooth or Drogheda the overcrowding issue is not even on the radar

Rosslare services will they be 3sets x 2 making 6 in total. 3 cars seems to little for the line.

What lenght wil they be????

Changing at Enniscorthy for Wexford,Rosslare
 

Do passengers need to change platforms at Enniscorthy for the connections to Wexford?

Of course, They have a 10min wait before contining on to Wexford/Rosslare Strand/Rosslare Europort. Passengers who travelled from Rosslare Euro/Rosslare Strand/Wexford on the 18:55 ex Rosslare have a near enough 25min wait before contining on to Dublin, WOW Right....