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ThomasJ 16-11-2007 15:12

sorry keith forgot to mention there is a note on the timetable stating there will be an amended timetable between 14th april 2008 and 27th april 2008 on the gorey/rosslare line to facilitate the resignalling.

eugene 16-11-2007 15:34

Sorry if I may of missed this, are the additional Docklands and services starting from Maynooth to be included after the 18th January so?

ThomasJ 16-11-2007 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugene (Post 27193)
Sorry if I may of missed this, are the additional Docklands and services starting from Maynooth to be included after the 18th January so?

appears to be a bit of a cutback. for example... no trains clonsilla docklands between 08.45 and 12.03 and between 12.03 and 14.10 and docklands clonsilla between 09.30 and 12.30 and between 12.30 and 14.36. in my opinion a waste of a station with 2 platforms.

Instead you have (benefitting drumcondra)

09.20 Clonsilla Connolly
10.00 Clonsilla Connolly
11.00 Clonsilla Connolly
13.05 Clonsilla Connolly
18.14 clonsilla Pearse
19.52 Clonsilla Connolly

10.32 Connolly Clonsilla`
11.33 Connolly Clonsilla
13.38 Connolly Clonsilla
14.46 Connolly Clonsilla

all from december. no major changes to clonsilla docklands in january

Colm Moore 20-11-2007 21:58

Some seems not to realise that these are the same journeys:

Rosslare - Waterford - Limerick http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey...erick%2008.pdf

Limerick - Rosslare Europort - Limerick http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey...erick%2008.pdf

The link to "Sandycove & Glasthule 08" is also broken (they never appreciate the '&')

paddyb180285 22-11-2007 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 27049)
The Bray-Maynooth/Drogheda trains exist only since they ran out of space in Pearse

Mark, you mentioned that they are running out of space at Pearse. Could this be attributed to the destruction of platform 3? I know the reason for destruction is tied in with expanding the amount of space at the station for connection with the interconnector. However, there is a huge amount of space to the north of Pearse Station where this expansion could be built on. I know there is a car park down there. However, that could be the made one out of many floors. I hate to see potential go to waste. Also, there is a third platform in Grand Canal Dock which could easily be used for more trains if they are running out of space at Pearse. The electronic display on the platform reads "do not board any train at platform 3". This is absolutely rediculous. Also, if Grand Canal Dock is a business district it should be used as an extra stop for all trains passing it. I would love to know the plans Irish Rail have for Pearse ultimately. If they are going to send Commuter trains to Bray and back, they should be made serve more stations. They are half empty anyway and with a train a few minutes further afield they can't go any faster. So they might aswell maximize the use of their time.

ThomasJ 22-11-2007 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddyb180285 (Post 27437)
Mark, you mentioned that they are running out of space at Pearse. Could this be attributed to the destruction of platform 3? I know the reason for destruction is tied in with expanding the amount of space at the station for connection with the interconnector. However, there is a huge amount of space to the north of Pearse Station where this expansion could be built on. I know there is a car park down there. However, that could be the made one out of many floors. I hate to see potential go to waste. Also, there is a third platform in Grand Canal Dock which could easily be used for more trains if they are running out of space at Pearse. The electronic display on the platform reads "do not board any train at platform 3". This is absolutely rediculous. Also, if Grand Canal Dock is a business district it should be used as an extra stop for all trains passing it. I would love to know the plans Irish Rail have for Pearse ultimately. If they are going to send Commuter trains to Bray and back, they should be made serve more stations. They are half empty anyway and with a train a few minutes further afield they can't go any faster. So they might aswell maximize the use of their time.

Is that unused platform at GCD not platform 1?

Also the spare platform at Dun Laoghaire would be of great use if they could work around it?

Thomas Ralph 24-11-2007 14:38

The unused platform at GCD is indeed platform 1, and it does not have overhead wires so only DMUs could use it.

Platform 3 at Pearse was a waste of space anyway given that no southbound trains start there and no northbound trains terminate there.

Mark Gleeson 24-11-2007 14:48

It is planned to bring platform 1 in Grand Canal Dock into service as the northbound platform and use the current platform 2 as a platform for trains from Drogheda/Maynooth allowing them to terminate and start without getting in the way of other trains as is currently, this will greatly reduce delays in Pearse at peak hours

The platform could be brought into use very quickly if IE bothered but they are in no hurry

The platform is currently unusable since it is not signalled and the track levels are out so railcars are banned from even parking in it

I've boarded trains on platform 3 I'd say at least 150 times, it was used in the recent past for southbound DART services, it's quite a useful platform to have. It future is unknown at this time

KSW 26-11-2007 13:14

That idea for Grand Canal Dock using platform 1 for Northbound Dart services services and platform2 for Commuter services/terminating it makes alot of sense. Rather than leaving the platform to idle.......

Thomas Ralph 28-11-2007 19:34

Can they actually fit the overhead wires and attendant pylons there? There's a section of plat 1 with about a foot clearance from the wall to the train.

Mark Gleeson 01-12-2007 16:27

Despite being at the printers for at least 3 weeks copies of the 2008 timetable are still not available

I've been told Thursday which is not acceptable should be available a full month ahead

ThomasJ 05-12-2007 11:37

I find it bizarre that with a timetable to kick in on sunday, that it has not been advertised on the irish rail website.

At Connolly Station yesterday there were a number of signs saying new timetable from sunday 9th december 2007 check irishrail.ie for details something along the lines of that.

It's shocking that the printed timetables will be available tomorrow, 3 days beforehand :confused:

Mark Gleeson 05-12-2007 11:46

There was a time when staff where under orders to refuse passenger requests for the timetable until the day it came into force despite the fact they where stacked in boxes in clear sight of the public

Last year I got my copy a good week ahead

I think its time to go undercover in Connolly again and act a little thick about the whole thing

I'd say its about 30 minutes before IE put a notice up, wonder why......

ThomasJ 05-12-2007 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 28006)
There was a time when staff where under orders to refuse passenger requests for the timetable until the day it came into force despite the fact they where stacked in boxes in clear sight of the public

I can picture people arriving on the day of the new timetable and finding out their train now leaves 10 or 15 minutes earlier or cancelled. Heres hoping there's no delays or that might be the case this year!

Ronald Binge 05-12-2007 16:14

I got a copy today from Abbey Street around 3.25pm.

First thing I've noticed is that the Suburban map at the back doesn't show the stations to Kildare and that the Red luas line is only shown from Connolly to Jervis. The Western line is only shown to Castleknock, Phoenix Park is due to open in 2007 and Docklands is still on its ghostly white line. The coastal line runs out at Skerries and Greystones respectively.

A bit crap in other words.

There is a photocopied errata sheet stuck in the middle, correcting 17 mistakes.

As is usual when buying a timetable from the Irish Rail office, there is a number written on the back which suggests that I am the proud owner of timetable no. 8.

At least its a lot more professional looking than the timetables that escaped into the public domain between 1985 and 1990.

Mark Gleeson 05-12-2007 16:24

Well Pearse ain't got any then again the guy on the desk didn't seem to be in the same universe as I

Abbey Street doesn't count

Ronald Binge 05-12-2007 16:25

Dublin Heuston to Enniscorthy via Waterford and Wexford on one table?

W00t! ;)

Ronald Binge 05-12-2007 16:26

Go on Mark, bet you get No. 9 in Abbey Street!

zag 05-12-2007 19:38

A work of art, me darlings
 
Ronald - was this masterpiece signed by the artist by any chance ? Numbering timetables . . . what is the world coming too ? I would hang on to that. I'm sure it will be valuable in due course - a 1st edition IE timetable.

z

ThomasJ 05-12-2007 20:06

Got mine at connolly and i am post one hundred. Happy days

Mark Gleeson 06-12-2007 09:29

It gets funny since the IE official has to log the number of each one sold

Last year the main delay was getting a piece of paper to scribble down the number

Mark Gleeson 06-12-2007 11:34

Finally found a copy in Connolly, Pearse of course still hasn't got copies

ThomasJ 07-12-2007 15:28

And the press release has also finally gone up on the website

http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/...ew&news_id=299

Quote:

Iarnród Éireann: New timetable from 9th December by Corporate Communications


Iarnród Éireann has unveiled a series of major service improvements for rail customers in the coming year.

For the fifth year in a row, the record investment programme in our railway, funded by the Irish Government under Transport 21 and the European Union, will deliver direct benefits to commuters on Intercity and Commuter area services.

Most of the improvements will take effect from this weekend, with the new national timetable operating from 9th December, but with further improvements during the year.

Full timetable details are available onthis website.

Customers across all services are advised to check the new schedules before travelling, as some departure times on existing services have changed.



SLIGO-DUBLIN INTERCITY SERVICES – NEW FLEET DELIVERS EIGHT TRAINS EACH WAY DAILY (FROM 21ST JANUARY 2008)

Sligo-Dublin Intercity customers are set for major improvements in the daily schedule. Just two years after the service increased from three trains each way to five trains each way, the fastest growing route on the network will have eight trains each way daily (Mon-Fri) from 21st January 2008.

This includes a new Monday to Friday early bird service departing Sligo at 05.45hrs, and an early evening 16.00hrs service from Dublin to Sligo. Other services will depart on a clockface pattern, from Sligo every two hours from 07.00hrs to 19.00hrs, and from Dublin every two hours from 07.05hrs to 19.05hrs.

The improvements are made possible by the introduction of a brand new fleet of trains on the Sligo-Dublin route. Sligo-Dublin will be the first route to benefit from a €400 million fleet of 183 Intercity railcar carriages, starting on the Sligo line in the coming weeks, and being rolled out across the network through 2008.



ROSSLARE INTERCITY – EXTRA SERVICES; ENNISCORTHY COMMUTER SERVICE BEGINS; NEW SERVICE FOR GOREY

Rosslare Intercity services are set for expansion, while Enniscorthy gain a daily commuter service for the first time (both from 10th December), with an additional Gorey commuter service to be added in May.

A new early morning service from Rosslare Europort will operate at 05.35hrs, providing a commuter link from Enniscorthy at 06.23hrs. In the evening, the 17.25hrs Connolly to Gorey will be extended to Enniscorthy, connecting with a train to Rosslare.

Furthermore, boat connections from Fishguard will be reinstated with the introduction of an 18.55hrs Rosslare to Connolly service (change at Enniscorthy). A new evening commuter service for Gorey commuters will also be introduced from 6th May 2008, at 16.40hrs.



ENNIS/LIMERICK-DUBLIN – ADDITIONAL MORNING SERVICE

A new morning connection will be offered to rail customers travelling from Ennis or Limerick to Dublin – customers departing Ennis at 08.00hrs and Limerick at 08.55hrs now have a connecting service at Limerick Junction to Dublin. This brings to 15 each way the number of weekday services between Limerick and Dublin, and follows major expansion in the service last year.



CARLOW COMMUTERS – NEW EVENING SERVICE

A new service at the heart of the evening peak is being introduced for Carlow commuters on 10th December. The service at 17.35hrs will also deliver an additional service for Athy. Carlow and Athy commuters will now have three evening service options, at 16.25hrs, 17.35hrs and 18.25hrs.



PORTLAOISE COMMUTERS – NEW MORNING SERVICE

Commuter service expansion will also be delivered for morning peak commuters from Portlaoise, with a new service at 06.30hrs from 10th December. This brings to six the number of morning peak services for Portlaoise commuters.



MILLSTREET-CORK COMMUTER OPTIONS INTRODUCED

A daily commuter service between Millstreet and Cork begins from 10th December. Three morning options will be available from Millstreet to Cork at 06.24hrs, 06.55hrs (new service) and 08.22hrs (change Mallow). Evening options will be at 16.55hrs (change Mallow), 17.55hrs (new service) and 18.55hrs (change Mallow).



MAYNOOTH COMMUTER SERVICES

New services on the ever-growing Maynooth line include (from 21st January 2008) 06.38hrs Maynooth-Connolly; 08.10hrs Maynooth-Connolly (non-stop to Drumcondra), and extra evening services at 16.20hrs (from Connolly) and 19.29hrs (from Pearse). Additional Sunday evening services will also operate.

Additional capacity will also be delivered on key peak services on the Maynooth and Northern lines during 2008.



WEXFORD-WATERFORD LOCAL LINK

A new Wexford-Waterford local link will be delivered from 10th December, with a daily service from Wexford at 06.48hrs (change at Rosslare Strand), and from Waterford at 17.34hrs. This service will also link Wexford with Limerick through connecting services at Waterford.



NENAGH-LIMERICK COMMUTER SERVICE: FROM 1ST SEPTEMBER 2008

The Limerick area commuter rail service also expands, from 1st September 2008. Nenagh-Limerick services will be expanded, to include commuting options. A new 07.55hrs service will operate from Nenagh to Limerick (serving Birdhill and Castleconnell), with evening returns at 16.45hrs and 17.47hrs.



CORK – IMPROVED SUNDAY SERVICE

Following the overwhelming success of the hourly Monday to Saturday service on the Cork-Dublin route, introduced this year, further improvements are delivered with an additional Sunday morning service in each direction.

Iarnród Éireann is already Europe’s fastest growing railway, with over 30% growth in since 2004. These new service improvements will ensure the company will expand still further.

In 2008, there will be more progress, as the introduction of the new Intercity railcar fleet is completed, leading to frequency expansion across a range of Intercity routes.

With the support of the Government under Transport 21, the rail network will play the fullest possible role in meeting the transport needs of the country and its communities.


Colm Moore 07-12-2007 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronald Binge (Post 28028)
There is a photocopied errata sheet stuck in the middle, correcting 17 mistakes.

Timetable Supplement http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey...ENDMENTS. pdf


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