When do these changes go active ?

so the sligo service changes back from "railcar" to "intercity" on the 21st january 2008 and includes a 7.05 and 9.05 service. and the 6.00 gorey-sligo becomes the 6.00 gorey-connolly

also the 16.00 will be a daily service giving 16:00, 17:05, 19:05

December 10th

looks like from the january timetable the sligo early bird is back and one of the morning longford-pearse services are gone?

also looks like the afternoon longford-bray is also gone in the january timetbable but new 16:04 maynooth-bray (all stops to connolly)

These are the changes down in Cork.

Cork-Cobh: One extra train a day. Where there are now trains at 18:30, 20:00, 21:30, the new timetable has 18:30, 19:30, 20:30, 21:30

Cork-Mallow: One train less a day. There's an extra departure at 05:45, but the 07:15 and 22:30 are gone. The loss of the 22:30 means 21:55 is the last train.

Cobh-Mallow: The number of through trains with no connection drops from six to five a day

Cork-Tralee: The number of through trains with no connection drops from three to two a day. The total number of trains when connections are included remains at nine.

Thomas J
 

The January timetable is that not the Dec10th that I've mentioned!

it is, the january timetable effective on the sligo line from the 21st

The 2008 timetable covers

December 9th 2007 till September 2nd 2008

With effect from January 20th 2008 the Sligo line timetable is changed considerably to account for full operation by 22k railcars with 5-12 minute reduction in journey times

September 2nd probably will have changes due to the resignaling on the Rosslare line and the 22k's going on there as well. Heuston side will have changes as more 22k's enter service, the depot in Portlaoise will be just about open, the speed limit in Portarlington will change from 25mph to 80mph, Nenagh commuter services

Mark September is that for the 22k trains, Is it not Easter(April)

They will be there way before September but you can't change timetable until they are all in place, signaling also needs time to be done and for the month or so after that there will be speed limits around stations

Sligo is getting 5-12 minutes off the times as a result of the 22k's in January

Mark, If you know - Why is the signalling taking so long?

1500 waterford-dublin
 

It dosent seem to appear online anyone any idea has it been cut or just a mistake ?? and does anyone know will the 1625 dubto wat now officaly have 1st class ?

Signaling will be April ish, add 2 months to get rid of the temporary speed limits it creates. Then there is the question of the new station in Rosslare

If you change something on the Rosslare line it can effect services as far away as Limerick now, so its much easier to change in one go country wide rather than piecemeal

Its fairly typical that Irish Rail make a mess of the timetable online, frequently stuff goes missing

The 11:30 ex Heuston runs as current and gets in 6 minutes earlier, its rostered to go back that afternoon at 3 so is most likely still there

16:25 will have first sometime in 2008, more importantly it will become a Mk3 operated service then a 22k operated service which may or may have first, probably won't

Mark, I would like to know your opinion on this matter. Dalkey's timetable will have been the same for two years if the 2008 timetable has indeed been set in stone until next September. Last year, the 15:36 Dalkey service to Maynooth stopped serving Dalkey, Shankill, Killiney and Glenageary despite the fact that loads of people got on at these stations. Now they have paired it down even further to go none stop between Blackrock and Landsdown road. Currently there are DART services which go none stop between Bray and Dun Laoghaire from Greystones and others which begin their journey at Dun Laoghaire. This leaves an uneven amount of services between the following stretches:
Dun Laoghaire - Connolly(A lot of services particularly in Blackrock*, Sydney Parade and Dun Laoghaire* itself.)
Bray - Dun Laoghaire(Noticeably fewer services)

The two stations marked with an * have gained an extra service.Fair enough, if the two are major bus interchages. However, Dalkey in particular being a small town in itself is at the moment poorly serviced by both bus and train.

QED, its a village btw and at all times the 15 minutes interval is maintained

Railcars are very slow compared to a DART, so a DART can do Bray, Shankill, Killiney and stop in Dalkey in 60 seconds more than a railcar doing Bray Dalkey non stop

The timetable is designed to ensure trains get into town on time

The Bray-Maynooth/Drogheda trains exist only since they ran out of space in Pearse

Mark, what about the railcars that are tightly squeezed between two DART services.I often see them cruising along.Most of these are the Bray express Commuter Branded trains.The point I am trying to make is that at that pace they can afford an extra stop or two.With a dart two or three minutes ahead as it has been in a lot of cases,the Commuter can't pick up speed.Therefore, SOME of them could be used to fill in gaps in one or more timetables to allow the train ahead to get further afield so that after it services Dun Laoghaire it can pick up speed.I would see it as making the most of what there is to improve the frequency as much as possible.

If they stop the DART behind gets it, I've seen Railcar-DART-Railcar-DART leave Bray in less than 10 minutes, its a very careful balance to get everything into the city particularly at the start of the rush hour

The timetable of all services through Connolly is a disaster there is no sense in most of the timetabling, there are way too many railcars starting in Bray which is leading to serious problems. Irish Rail could do heaps better and in fact offer a better service with quicker more reliable journeys if they bothered

Yes, I've wondered why there are so many railcars sent out to Bray in the morning and back. Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Dublin To Rosslare Weekday

05-44 MF Arklow-Rosslare Harbour
07-26 MS Connolly-Rosslare Harbour (from Drogheda)
11-35 MS Connolly-Gorey
13-05 MS Connolly-Rosslare Harbour
17-25 MF Connolly-Enniscorthy (from Maynooth)
19-50 MF Enniscorthy-Rosslare Harbour
18-37 MS Connolly-Rosslare Harbour (from Maynooth)

Rosslare To Dublin Weekday

05-35 MF Rosslare Harbour-Dundalk
06-00 MF Gorey-Sligo (operates till January 18th 2008)
06-00 MF Gorey-Connolly (operates from January 21st 2008)
06-45 SO Gorey-Dundalk
07-40 MS Rosslare Harbour-Connolly
13-00 MS Rosslare Harbour-Maynooth
14-48 MS Gorey-Maynooth
17-40 MS Rosslare Harbour-Drogheda
18-55 MF Rosslare Harbour-Enniscorthy (from Limerick Junction)
20-05 MF Enniscorthy-Connolly


Sunday times as current timetable
16-40 MF Connolly-Gorey & 19-23 Gorey-Connolly to operate from May 6th 2008

worth noting maynooth services will be generally hourly, last train 20:43 ex pearse. a bit better.

also on weekdays from january a 19:29 pearse-maynooth service

looks like maynooth is getting a few extra services from january 2008 :)

New Station in Rosslare thats a new one on me,I thought they were refurbishing the station so the line looks secure and not closing behond Gorey. Thats June for the Rosslare services to be upgraded fully. The Arklow-Rosslare-Limerick service will there be much people going for this service, I know its not my matter but will there? The 17:25 Connolly/Enniscorthy service will the announcements at the platform5 be "The train now standing at Platform5 is the 17:25 COMMUTER (Had to get that in) SERVICE to Rosslare Europort, Please change at Enniscorthy for Wexford,Rosslare Strand and Rosslare Europort

Mark one of the things i noticed is that a few of the current docklands trains will now go to connolly with one even going to pearse. Looks like the major changes on the maynooth line for both weekdays and the later sunday services will come into effect 21st january 2008

The 19:29 will be a very handy addition.

heard this also. but as well as losing Sallins and Portarlington stops it will stop at Ballybrophy as well. just what i heard...

--laoisfan

I thought Iarnrod Eireann were considering introducing at late Connolly/Gorey service.

The 22.45 heuston kildare will depart 23.00 in new timetable

AWOL Train
 

The 17:40 Rosslare - Drogheda train goes AWOL from the timetable if you put in any station after Wicklow as the destination. Looks like it hasn't been fully programmed into the on-line timetable (it doesn't even work if you put in Drogheda as the destination yet it lists Drogheda as the destination).

it loses Sallins and Portarlington alright. however it will not stop as Ballybrophy as I said (and had heard). pity because Ballybrophy is very badly serviced as it stands. it would be handy for me, 5 mins up the road as opposed to driving into Portlaoise. but it will stop at portlaoise, mono and kildare.

the 06:30am service departing from Portlaoise is definately running, arriving into Heuston at 07:40am, check the online timetable.

--laoisfan

I noticed this Rosslare/Dublin Connolly then change to the Belfast Enterprise when the 17:40 is a direct train.

17:40 is overtaken between Skerries Balbriggan by the Enterprise service leaving Connolly at 20:45

Does the Enterprise travel in the wrong track to do this?

The commuter service uses the wrong track from just south of Skerries until just before Ballbriggan, the signalling between Skerries and Ballbriggan was specially designed to allow this

Lucky Enterprise at least that service gets treated like an InterCity Route.

I've just noticed from the new timetable that the 13:05 Dublin/Rosslare service is the quickest by 1hr38mins from all of the 5-trains out of Connolly. Mark I'm asking a bit much of you here, The Dublin/Rosslare in distance is it not the longest by time in all of Ireland to cover the 105miles to Rosslare.

pdf Timetables for 2008 are up:

http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey...tables2008.asp

It doesnt appear to be.

its working no problem for me. maynooth/longford/sligo has 2 timetables one until the 20th january 2008 and one from the 21st january 2008

also phoenix park timings on both timetables. no note to state what date will open, will it be open on day 1 of new timetable?

Nothing on my end. Can I ask what is the Rosslare stituation in May8th with the 16:40 Connolly/Gorey being introuced. Thanks ThomasJ

its on the new timetable for gorey/rosslare europort timetable with a note stating that it will begin tuesday 6th may 2008.

Thanks Alot. TJ